Okay, so this is an example of why I think you’re some sort of fake leftist. You’ve said this exact thing to me earlier and I didn’t really dwell on it all that much – but it is very bizarre for a supposedly far-left person to hold up CNN as a trusted source. Almost everyone on the left in the US regards CNN as corporate garbage.
The time before, you actually were arguing with me when I was criticizing a CNN article I think, something like you don’t know how much more liberal it can get than CNN and you don’t see why I would question it, which I interpreted as one of those accidental big slip-ups where the mask comes off a little bit. Maybe I am wrong in that, of course. Surely there are people on the left who for whatever reason trust CNN. But I think the ones of them that are also rabidly anti-establishment-Democrat are probably a lot more rare than you realize. It struck me as much more a statement that would come from someone outside the left, who was accidentally using their own viewpoint on CNN (that it’s “liberal”) and not the fake leftist view they were supposed to be using.
But yes, CNN criticizing Biden on immigration means more or less nothing. I actually talked a little more at length – I think with you – about the ACLU’s criticism of him, which although I would take a lot more seriously I also don’t agree with, and I explained some of the reasons why. But, predictably, you ignored it and just went back to repeating over and over again that Biden is bad on immigration.
Man, I really do commend the effort you put into this. I’m so far into cynicism land that I don’t think I can find my way back.
I just can’t help feel like you’re wasting your breath trying to reason with ozma (as is evidenced by his hilarious reply to the same comment I’m replying to)
Well I mean what else is he supposed to say 😃. Honestly he played it off pretty well; I think trying to argue the point definitely wouldn’t have been a smart thing to try to do.
(The one from this thread was just a little off kilter, honestly. The thing from before where he was surprised that I, a left person, would ever have anything bad to say about CNN, since after all it is liberal – that was super weird. I was just reminded of it when he did a lesser version of it here.)
Almost everyone on the left in the US regards CNN as corporate garbage.
I think far left, not left. But even if this were true, it is far from being called “Russian troll”. What do you think in the article that makes it or him “Russian troll”, or even “corporate garbage”?
Yeah, but ozma specifically claims to be far left – like so much so that he can’t stand any establishment Democrat, as far as I can tell, even Joe Biden who’s significantly more left than the normal (fairly depressing) Democratic standard. That’s the only thing that makes it incongruous. Along with getting confused that anyone else from the far-left (as he claims to be) would ever criticize CNN, because after all, it’s liberal.
I don’t actually agree with calling ozma a Russian or corporate troll. It is extremely clear to me and most other people here that he’s some sort of bad-faith mass poster of disinformation. But yeah, for myself I don’t tend to throw out accusations of particular nationalities or anything like that, because the truth is that none of us have any idea. Sometimes there will be some poster who has a weird and entertaining confluence of ideas that don’t really belong together that involve some particular nation, and so it’s not hard to figure out, but ozma’s not that. He’s all “no Biden” all the time, with a 40% mixture of random other generic-leftist topics to attempt a fig-leaf of being just a normal poster.
Honestly he just irritated me by starting it up as far as immigration. I’m honestly a little surprised that he’s still doing this, since as far as I can tell the result most of the time is just to tee up people to be able to downvote him and talk good things about Joe Biden in a way that would be weird if they just came from nowhere and said “IT’S NOT HIS FAULT IMMIGRATION IS SUCH A MESS RIGHT NOW.” But IDK; maybe the posting of the constant memes and repetition and purely putting it out there is doing some good things for his objectives. Kind of like pushing junk climate science so there will be a “debate” in the public perception instead of “yes of course it’s fucking real why is this even a question.”
Okay, so this is an example of why I think you’re some sort of fake leftist. You’ve said this exact thing to me earlier and I didn’t really dwell on it all that much – but it is very bizarre for a supposedly far-left person to hold up CNN as a trusted source. Almost everyone on the left in the US regards CNN as corporate garbage.
The time before, you actually were arguing with me when I was criticizing a CNN article I think, something like you don’t know how much more liberal it can get than CNN and you don’t see why I would question it, which I interpreted as one of those accidental big slip-ups where the mask comes off a little bit. Maybe I am wrong in that, of course. Surely there are people on the left who for whatever reason trust CNN. But I think the ones of them that are also rabidly anti-establishment-Democrat are probably a lot more rare than you realize. It struck me as much more a statement that would come from someone outside the left, who was accidentally using their own viewpoint on CNN (that it’s “liberal”) and not the fake leftist view they were supposed to be using.
But yes, CNN criticizing Biden on immigration means more or less nothing. I actually talked a little more at length – I think with you – about the ACLU’s criticism of him, which although I would take a lot more seriously I also don’t agree with, and I explained some of the reasons why. But, predictably, you ignored it and just went back to repeating over and over again that Biden is bad on immigration.
Man, I really do commend the effort you put into this. I’m so far into cynicism land that I don’t think I can find my way back.
I just can’t help feel like you’re wasting your breath trying to reason with ozma (as is evidenced by his hilarious reply to the same comment I’m replying to)
Well I mean what else is he supposed to say 😃. Honestly he played it off pretty well; I think trying to argue the point definitely wouldn’t have been a smart thing to try to do.
(The one from this thread was just a little off kilter, honestly. The thing from before where he was surprised that I, a left person, would ever have anything bad to say about CNN, since after all it is liberal – that was super weird. I was just reminded of it when he did a lesser version of it here.)
I think far left, not left. But even if this were true, it is far from being called “Russian troll”. What do you think in the article that makes it or him “Russian troll”, or even “corporate garbage”?
Yeah, but ozma specifically claims to be far left – like so much so that he can’t stand any establishment Democrat, as far as I can tell, even Joe Biden who’s significantly more left than the normal (fairly depressing) Democratic standard. That’s the only thing that makes it incongruous. Along with getting confused that anyone else from the far-left (as he claims to be) would ever criticize CNN, because after all, it’s liberal.
I don’t actually agree with calling ozma a Russian or corporate troll. It is extremely clear to me and most other people here that he’s some sort of bad-faith mass poster of disinformation. But yeah, for myself I don’t tend to throw out accusations of particular nationalities or anything like that, because the truth is that none of us have any idea. Sometimes there will be some poster who has a weird and entertaining confluence of ideas that don’t really belong together that involve some particular nation, and so it’s not hard to figure out, but ozma’s not that. He’s all “no Biden” all the time, with a 40% mixture of random other generic-leftist topics to attempt a fig-leaf of being just a normal poster.
Honestly he just irritated me by starting it up as far as immigration. I’m honestly a little surprised that he’s still doing this, since as far as I can tell the result most of the time is just to tee up people to be able to downvote him and talk good things about Joe Biden in a way that would be weird if they just came from nowhere and said “IT’S NOT HIS FAULT IMMIGRATION IS SUCH A MESS RIGHT NOW.” But IDK; maybe the posting of the constant memes and repetition and purely putting it out there is doing some good things for his objectives. Kind of like pushing junk climate science so there will be a “debate” in the public perception instead of “yes of course it’s fucking real why is this even a question.”
Yes, CNN is a liberal news source. I figured Dems love CNN (when it attacks Trump).
That wasn’t true even back in 2010, when I still watched CNN.
Mask is slipping.
I’m not a Democrat. I’m far left and No Party Preference.
Oh, that much I believe.
Wow. That’s crazy. Wow. Yeah, cool cool.
Anyway, what should Biden do to fix immigration?