Some analysts believe Kyiv is buying the west time on the precipice of a world war. Is it being used wisely?

Interesting article that talks about the similarities between now and 1938, and the sort of lessons we can learn from history.

  • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.worldEnglish
    21·
    6 months ago

    There is no civil war in Ukraine and Putin recognizes Zelensky as the legitimate head of state. So not the same at all.

    • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.mlEnglish
      23·
      6 months ago

      But the two republics are also recognized and did ask for help as well, hence the SMO- and idk what you would consider 2014-2022 in ukraine but civil war would be a fair description in my opinion.

        • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.mlEnglish
          13·
          6 months ago

          They had troops outside of Kiev before being fought back.

          That was actually a withdrawal as a part of the negotiations Boris Johnson ultimately sabotaged. He promised unlimited support if they refused any deal

          • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            6 months ago

            If it was a negotiated withdrawal, Russian troops would not have been killed by Ukraine. Russian troops would have left before being forced to withdraw.

            Which is beside the point that their attempt to take Kiev makes your claim that it was defensive a lie.

            • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.mlEnglish
              1·
              6 months ago

              Which is beside the point that their attempt to take Kiev makes your claim that it was defensive a lie.

              ???

              How did you take that from anything I said

          • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.mlEnglish
            1·
            6 months ago

            That was actually a withdrawal as a part of the negotiations Boris Johnson ultimately sabotaged. He promised unlimited support if they refused any deal by

            I had the above post removed for ‘misinformation’: here’s a source:

            https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/05/5/7344206/

            According Ukrainska Pravda sources close to Zelenskyy, the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom Boris Johnson, who appeared in the capital almost without warning, brought two simple messages.

            The first is that Putin is a war criminal, he should be pressured, not negotiated with.

            And the second is that even if Ukraine is ready to sign some agreements on guarantees with Putin, they are not.

            Johnson’s position was that the collective West, which back in February had suggested Zelenskyy should surrender and flee, now felt that Putin was not really as powerful as they had previously imagined, and that here was a chance to “press him.”

            Three days after Johnson left for Britain, Putin went public and said talks with Ukraine “had turned into a dead end”.

            Literally 1984 censorship if you’re pretending otherwise