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      1 year ago

      LOL. See, this is what I’m talking about. The only way people can disagree with you is if they are paid Russian shills. It’s amazing that you don’t see how this reflects on the weakness of your position. It’s unimaginable to you that someone just like you, raised in the imperial core, educated in public schools, with a 4-year degree, who listened to the same radio and TV, watched the same movies, and read the same literature, dated in the same cities, and experienced all the same shared traumas as you could come to a different conclusion than you on this topic. So to maintain your fragile beliefs you have to disengage from the real world and enter into a fantasy realm where all of your opponents are paper dolls being managed by your imagined mortal enemy to push uninformed and evil narratives. You just can’t handle the idea that someone who was in college thinking about how they could build a startup and if only the government would deregulate more, and yada yada that someone like this could actually study world history and end up believing something different than you. It’s a fragile world view you have.

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        The only way people can disagree with you is if they are paid Russian shills

        You say that as though lemmygrad and hexbear posters aren’t constantly accusing anyone they disagree with of being FBI plants or Western shills lol

        So far you’ve used a whole shitload of words to not actually disprove anything that anyone in this thread is asserting, while throwing strawmen around like they’re confetti lol - in fact, you’ve actually agreed with the only claim this thread is making

        what idiot would invest in stores of rubles when their countries are all engaged in economic sanctions that threaten to make those rubles useless to them.

        But keep throwing around strawmen like

        you keep fantasizing about when you call for the blood of “Russian orcs” or the death of the “brain washed Chinese”

        I’m sure it’ll prove your point. So far on Lemmy (and yes I know the situation was different on Reddit, but we all left that shithole for a reason) the only references to “Russian Orcs” has been from lemmygrad and hexbear users who are pretending that it’s common terminology among all Ukraine supporters. FWIW I totally agree with you that calling Russian Soldiers Orcs is both counterproductive and inherently unempathetic and even evil. My heart goes out to every Russian conscript who has been forced to march to Ukraine, either to die a pointless death, or to kill other humans all for Putin’s idiotic ambitions. But the fact that Russian Conscripts are people too doesn’t mean that Ukraine should just cede its sovereignty so that they don’t have to kill the soldiers that Russia is using to try and take away their independence.

        You just can’t handle the idea that someone who was in college thinking about how they could build a startup and if only the government would deregulate more, and yada yada that someone like this could actually study world history and end up believing something different than you. It’s a fragile world view you have.

        It’s hugely ironic that you keep saying how other people are too fragile to accept that other’s might have different world views, while showing yourself to be totally unwilling to consider anyone elses point of view on this subject. No one is telling you what you can and can’t believe. If you choose to believe that Russia is the lesser of two evils in this conflict, despite objectively being the one who invaded the other, then by all means go ahead. But don’t act like anyone who disagrees with you must just not understand the situation. Presuming that everyone who doesn’t think the same way as you is just incapable of seeing the truth is a sure sign of a small mind.