an update to defederating from sh.itjust.works - Beehaw
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hey folks, here’s a quick update on our decision to defederate from sh.itjust.works! (and here’s sh.itjust.works [https://sh.itjust.works/post/129725]’s side of this update) we got in touch with the head admin over there, The Dude, and we had a pretty good chat about our concerns and reason for defederating. while immediate re-federation is just bluntly off the table with the rudimentary state of Lemmy’s moderation tools, we now have a pretty good idea of the roadmap to refederating with them. we think we’ll eventually be able to do this, although we don’t have a timetable on when yet. we’re also now collaborating with him on how to move forward–and in the weeks and months to come we’ll be pushing to expedite the process of developing some of the necessary tools. this decision has really helped us make connections that can hopefully realize those tools both on the desktop side and in apps being developed for Lemmy. we’re also hoping to collaborate with other Lemmy administrators who have needs like our own, or just generally want more granular tools at their disposal. we did also get in touch with the lemmy.world owner prior to defederating to share the concerns that prompted us to defederate[^1]–but we have not received any communication from him since it was levied, so there’s no roadmap at all there as of now. we’re always open to reconsidering and collaborating to end the defederation with him, but for now the earliest i can give you is “when mod tools are in a better state”. that’s all for now folks. if any new significant developments take place we’ll announce them as needed. [^1]: we’re only bringing this up now because it was just not useful information in the context of our announcement. it almost certainly would have been interpreted as some sort of callousness and/or brought unnecessary sectarianism and grief to him. at the end of the day he has his reasons and desires for running lemmy.world how he does, and we have ours for running Beehaw as we do. because of social and technological circumstances those are just incompatible right now, and that’s fine.

Wasn’t it established this type of behavior isn’t acceptable towards lgbt people? Dismissing their hurt caused by others and clearly gas lighting them?

The replies to this comnent are disheartening https://beehaw.org/comment/314559

  • PenguinCoder@beehaw.orgM
    9·
    1 year ago

    If we removed everything we disagreed with, that would be an echo chamber of specific opinion. Not ideal and not wanted. Having a discussion about disagreements is more apt to change someone’s view versus just removing it entirely.

    • Saintzillla@beehaw.org
      3·
      1 year ago

      Yup. Doesn’t help to hide this stuff. We all need to band together and support each other in shouting it down and educating.

      • SapphicFemme@beehaw.orgOP
        1·
        1 year ago

        This is tiring for those whom are being attacked by that stuff in covert manner. Think about it from the minority persons perspective, day in day out they see abusive content, in media, their home and in discussion forums. It doesn’t help to be forced to see this in a safe space either. The stuff i link in this post isn’t good for the mental health and wellbeing of people.

        • longshaden@beehaw.org
          2·
          1 year ago

          It is not an attack to simply express disagreement, and not everyone who disagrees is coming from a place of hostility.

          The whole point of a forum is for healthy dialogue. You can’t just go around accusing everyone who disagrees with you as being abusive and disingenuous.

    • SapphicFemme@beehaw.orgOP
      1·
      1 year ago

      If we removed everything we disagreed with

      That is very disingenuous and rather hyperbolic to say this. A person talking about their lived experiences and having someone dismiss them in a safe space only for admin to act like removing traumatising content is somehow “what we disagree with”?