The largest piracy community is hosted over at !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

lemmy.world has blocked it. It appears to have also blocked !piracy@lemmy.ml.

If this is a problem for you, I’d suggest migrating accounts using LASIM to an instance that doesn’t block it (such as lemm.ee).

edit:

An official announcement has been made:

  • WhoRoger@lemmy.world
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    I’m really not a fan of the lw admins just blocking communities. It’s not the first time either. It’s even worse than defederating, because there’s no record of it.

    I signed up to lw on its almost first day, but with some of these policies, and constant downtimes, looks like I’ll be moving. It’s a bummer I’ve created all the communities here before lw became so big.

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        Yes I know, I just wish they were more diversified. When I was starting, I wasn’t expecting Lemmy to take off like this, so I didn’t care much at the time. Now it sucks especially due to the server downtimes.

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          Lemmy is still young. If you move your community now, pin an announcement on top with a link to the new one, and lock the old one, you’ll probably have almost everyone following you. I did it for one of my communities, the subscribers number of the new one is almost identical to the old one.

          It might be better to do it now than in a few weeks/months when your communities are much larger.

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      This is bogus. I’ll be creating an account elsewhere, and letting this one go stale. Lemmy.world is down constantly anyway.

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    That’s super lame and disappointing. Democracy my ass, the users didn’t vote for this.

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      Bit of a newbie question here: is lemmy a democracy or just a federation?

      Or to put it another way, do I vote with my upvotes or only with my choice in which members of the fediverse I connect with?

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        I don’t think there’s anything set in stone, really. Or if it is it was Tl;Dr for me.

        But in the past we used to vote (with upvotes/downvotes and or opinions in form of comments) on decisions or at least some instances/communities did/do it like that.

        I don’t know about any vote having been done on this decision though since I’m pretty sure if there was this decision wouldn’t have been made.

        Though from the view of the Admin I can definitely understand blocking piracy communities, because if someone uploaded copyright infringing content on any instance, every instance that federates with it would get into major trouble for (1) cloning such content and (2) making it available to more users. Kind of like torrenting without the P2P aspect.

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      Aren’t only some instances being run according to democratic methods? There’s not a Lemmy Instance Covenant like there is for Mastodon afaik

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    Together with their recent removal of a community focused on shrooms, lemmy.world is starting to seem excessively puritanical for my tastes.

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    Well, lemmy.world has shown their hand. They don’t seem to have any consistent defederaion or content policy other than “whatever they feel like.”

    Abandoning my lw account and switching to lemm.ee now.

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      About lemm.ee . . . it’s a great instance, no doubt, but maybe not the safe haven you think it is. The rules there leave the option of blocking “illegal content” and users/instances that post it wide open.

      Excerpted from the Administration and federation policy on lemm.ee (the bold is their own):

      Our rules apply even when you’re posting in a community on another instance. For example, this means that you’re not allowed to post advertisement spam using your lemm.ee account on any other instance (even if that other instance has no rules).

      Admins:
      Purge illegal content from lemm.ee
      Ban lemm.ee users who break our rules on other instances

      I don’t like to piss in other peoples’ Wheaties, just trying to save you and others some trouble. If you’re looking to change to a piracy-friendly instance that will remain so regardless of how “illegal content” is defined at any particular moment, lemm.ee might not be it.

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      In the real world there’s these people called “Lawyers” who will happily sue relatively small, cash poor platforms like lemmy.world out of existence. What would you like the admins to do? Are you coughing up legal fees for them?

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      lol abandon Lemmy world for an instance that specifically won’t defederate from openly Nazi instances.

      Lemmy.ee is still federated with exploding-heads and the skinheads instance.

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    I get it cuz corpos be sue happy lately but at least it shows the Federation’s strength: simply having another account routes around the problem.

    If this was reddit it’d be gone for good.

    But here it’s just a mild inconvenience.

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    Maybe I’m misunderstanding this, but there’s nothing stopping anyone from having logins in either place. Using Voyager, for instance, I can have multiple logins on multiple servers with the same app.

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      It’s annoying having to create logins on multiple instances. I always forget passwords and have to remember which servers i have accounts.

      For example i had an account on one of the “lemmy. something” instance, but they defederated from shit.justworks so i created an account there. I changed phone and i relogged in from shitjjustworks but forgot what was my other login. And now do i have to create a new one to access the piracy one?

      I wish there was one Lenny instance i could create an access and have access to the entirety of lemmy, without having to bother

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        First off, you should be using a password manager. This is probably a good opportunity to get into the habit.

        I wish there was one Lenny instance i could create an access and have access to the entirety of lemmy, without having to bother

        Any small instance will probably never be defederated by anybody else unless they’re focused on something controversial.

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        I always forget passwords

        Use a password manager! it takes me literally less than 30 seconds to generate a password (and username if you want) make a new account and save the password

        I’d rec BitWarden

        The workflow is so much better than relying on your own passwords

        I wish there was one Lenny instance i could create an access and have access to the entirety of lemmy, without having to bother

        That’s most of them honestly. lemm.ee doesn’t really block anyone for example. The only major instance that blocks sh.itjust.works is beehaw.org, but they block a significant amount of instances.

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    I really don’t get what’s going on with lemmy.world blocking communities like this. Without the threat of loss of ad revenue what is to be gained from blocking communities exercising free speech?

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        And that is why the way federation works right now needs a rethink. Users should be able to access content not cached by their home servers, so that the servers can defederate and don’t get into hot water for content from federated instances.

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          I agree, but I wonder what the implications are for resources. I imagine that takes a whole lot more, instead of caching.

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        I suppose. I guess my innocent naive brain has trouble imagining the soapbox bearing any responsibility for the speaker atop it.

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        I could respect it if they owned that and said “we are covering the admin team’s butts.” Instead, they say this is to protect users. Laughable.

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          They said more than just the users lol. Why make shit up?

          They said it’s to protect the instance, the admins, and the users specifically because of potential lawsuits and legal issues.

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      You seriously don’t understand what would lead some otherwise ordinary people who happened to start a lemmy instance that happened to become the biggest one from blocking a community the mere existence of which on their servers could lead to them getting sued into bankruptcy by some multinational corporation?

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    I mean its not their fault for trying to be proactive with this site gaining so much online traction. People are complaining, but they posted the named instances!!! They know its bullshit but they were like hey just go here and make a new account! It wouldve been different if they done this quietly.

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    Haha power trip feels good it seems. The bane of fediverse existence.

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    And this is the beauty of the fediverse right here: an instance decides it doesn’t want some specific content doesn’t mean the community dies. It just lives on on another instance.

    Once these services can operate on the darknet like I2P (which supports anonymous torrenting btw), then things might really pick up steam.

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      Yeah you just need to create an account on another instance, hope it doesn’t get blocked there too or the instance doesn’t block other stuff you want, migrate your stuff…

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          But what is the difference here? You can create another acc on reddit too, it’s just less annoying than trying to find an instance that works with all your communities.