Yeah, they (the showrunners) used incredibly bad stuff to produce humour (well).
And I’ve heard that ‘the show didn’t age well’ but (iirc) the show absolutely at all times (with no doubt at all) portrayed all those characters as horrible.
At no point was shaming-vagina tentacles presented as the morally right thing. If the jokes they did with that arent funny to you, sure, that’s legit, but if they were funny to you but aren’t anymore “bcs the times changed” that just means that you were wrong back then & now grown up, and you prob liked the shaming, not the jokes.
Its like anti-lgbt stuff in recent history - it’s not that 100 years ago being a bigot was any less horrible than now, the only difference is that now it might ‘inconvenience you’.
Its like people saying that It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia characters “might be bad” … you fucked up if you idolise them just because they are main characters, if you can’t comprehend how bad they are (even tho they make it extremely obvious at all times) and how bad the lives of everyone around them make. Its like the whole point of a setup like that. None of them are anti- or edgy- heroes, they just suck.
I don’t think Drawn Together was like Family Guys Quagmires rapey jokes & deeds (that was his whole character for most of the shows run) that were always presented as “cool” & macho - that didn’t “age badly”, it was bad & horrible all along.
And mass murderers with superpowers (Drawn Together, not The Boys) that indiscriminately and selfishly hurt absolutely everyone … well, racism of those chars prob isn’t the core issue or propaganda.
And racism, shaming, etc, they exist. That’s just a fact. And you can make fun of anything.
Its what Louis-Dreyfus is saying with ‘“woke” culture isn’t killing or limiting comedy’, it doesn’t (the context of that is that Seinfeld is bitching how anti-sexism is limiting (his) comedy, lul).
Yeah, they (the showrunners) used incredibly bad stuff to produce humour (well).
And I’ve heard that ‘the show didn’t age well’ but (iirc) the show absolutely at all times (with no doubt at all) portrayed all those characters as horrible.
At no point was shaming-vagina tentacles presented as the morally right thing. If the jokes they did with that arent funny to you, sure, that’s legit, but if they were funny to you but aren’t anymore “bcs the times changed” that just means that you were wrong back then & now grown up, and you prob liked the shaming, not the jokes.
Its like anti-lgbt stuff in recent history - it’s not that 100 years ago being a bigot was any less horrible than now, the only difference is that now it might ‘inconvenience you’.
Its like people saying that It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia characters “might be bad” … you fucked up if you idolise them just because they are main characters, if you can’t comprehend how bad they are (even tho they make it extremely obvious at all times) and how bad the lives of everyone around them make. Its like the whole point of a setup like that. None of them are anti- or edgy- heroes, they just suck.
I don’t think Drawn Together was like Family Guys Quagmires rapey jokes & deeds (that was his whole character for most of the shows run) that were always presented as “cool” & macho - that didn’t “age badly”, it was bad & horrible all along.
And mass murderers with superpowers (Drawn Together, not The Boys) that indiscriminately and selfishly hurt absolutely everyone … well, racism of those chars prob isn’t the core issue or propaganda.
And racism, shaming, etc, they exist. That’s just a fact. And you can make fun of anything.
Its what Louis-Dreyfus is saying with ‘“woke” culture isn’t killing or limiting comedy’, it doesn’t (the context of that is that Seinfeld is bitching how anti-sexism is limiting (his) comedy, lul).