The purported names and addresses of grand jurors who indicted Donald Trump were posted online by Trump supporters on a fringe website known for violent rhetoric. This prompted security concerns for the jurors and district attorney’s office. A research group found the jurors’ information being spread across other sites along with false claims about their political views. The indictment itself does not include such private details. After Trump referred to “riggers” online, supporters appeared to use that term in place of a racial slur in discussing the jurors. Both the sheriff’s office handling Trump’s surrender and the FBI declined to comment on grand jury security matters. The posting of jurors’ private information has led to death threats against them from some Trump supporters online.
So, I’m not a specialist in any field relevant to the things we are discussing. I have opinions, which arise from a lot of factors most of which create a confirmation bias that reinforces my opinions. This is why I’m grateful when people who disagree chose to engage in conversation to explain me how I was mistaken, so thank you for that.
Situational stuff I think is relevant I’m a white privileged person (parents paid for my education, never got hungry one day in my life), I’m perceived as male in public space and most of my social circles (the unsafe ones). So I’ve had it easier than most my whole life, and I have no first hand experience of being part of a group that has to live through daily violence from a racist culture. Your post gives me the impression that you have that experience, and that really sucks - this should not happen to anyone.
The point I was trying to express I think calling them monsters is a way of dehumanizing them, of distancing ourselves from them. Doing that, we become blind to how they became who they are today : at least some of them were probably once people we could have known and not hated. We also become blind to the possibility that one or several of our friends, family, neighbors, colleagues… which we don’t hate right now could go down the same paths.
I’m also convinced that their actions must be punished, and that we need to try and prevent them from harming people. This can be done legally, but sometimes the law is not enough.
The points you made - I agree with almost everything. I agree with almost everything you wrote. I seems to me that the only disagreement we have is about calling them monsters or not.
I really with I had a good answer to this question, because I’ve been struggling with it for some time. Best I could come up with was :
I feel like this is well summed up by the sign you posted : we need to be there and to take action to protect targeted groups and people.
I completely agree with you. I even believe it’s too late for some people - we will never be able to bring them back to more a more tolerant/empathetic view of the world.
I think the first thing to be done is to prevent hateful actions/speeches by making them socially and legally inacceptable (and sometimes violence is needed to achieve that) because the most important thing is to protect the people who endure the hate. And at the same time but on a different scale we need to adress systemic conditions and problematic culture and tradition.
That’s the only point where I disagree with you : I’d say we need to force the people who act like monsters out, as I’ve tried to explain in the beginnning of my comment.
Completely agree.
I’m so grateful people like you exist and stand up. I don’t know you personnally, but seeing people like you and the ones in the picture helped me get out of my privileged apathy and start trying to make things better.