• JimSamtanko@lemm.ee
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    5 months ago

    Okay dude. I said I’m not arguing this with to. And I said there are no VIABLE working models that show socialism working in America.

    And if anyone reason along wants to know what a pure socialist system will do to America, just look at what happened in Bulgaria

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      Okay dude. I said I’m not arguing this with to. And I said there are no VIABLE working models that show socialism working in America.

      What is a “viable model of Socialism working in America?” Are you asking for a think-tank to model Socialism for you, or are you just saying Socialism can’t work because you say it can’t, despite historically working?

      And if anyone reason along wants to know what a pure socialist system will do to America, just look at what happened in Bulgaria

      Why look at Bulgaria, specifically? What does Bulgaria share in common with the US that you would pick it over any of the other AES countries? Why do you think these presumed similarities mean the same events in Bulgaria would happen in America?

      Do you have anything coherent to say?

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        5 months ago

        Not arguing this. Socialism has never worked anywhere that is even remotely comparable to America. This is a fact.

        I don’t argue against people that dispute facts. The facts do that themselves.

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          Not arguing this. Socialism has never worked anywhere that is even remotely comparable to America. This is a fact.

          It has, mind explaining what you mean when you say it hasn’t? Does improving life expectancy, literacy rates, housing rates, scientific progress, reducing poverty, and more not count as success?

          I don’t argue against people that dispute facts. The facts do that themselves.

          What facts have you presented? So far you’ve been sharing your opinion.

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            5 months ago

            Yeah. I do mind. As I’ve said, I’m not engaging with you on this. Your bad faith false equivalence rhetoric is not worthy of discussion because you have NO MODELS to compare against America.

            So your life expectancy,” your “literacy rates,” your “housing rates,” your scientific progress” and your “poverty reduction” are irrelevant things to compare with.

            You HAVE to know this.

            Again, there is NO WORKING MODEL that can show pure socialism working in America. And you cannot provide one.

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              Yeah. I do mind. As I’ve said, I’m not engaging with you on this. Your bad faith false equivalence rhetoric is not worthy of discussion because you have NO MODELS to compare against America.

              How have I been bad faith? What part has been false-equivalence? What do you mean by a Model, are you referring to another country with similar material conditions? There can’t be, as America is history’s most developed and exploitative empire, and no former empire has become Socialist straight from said Empire.

              So your life expectancy,” your “literacy rates,” your housing rates,” your scientific progress” and “poverty reduction” are irrelevant things to compare.

              So improving conditions is irrelevant, got it. Is your point that you want these to lower, like what happened in the Russian Federation?

              Again, there is NO WORKING MODEL that can show pure socialism working in America. And you cannot provide one.

              I’m sure I could if you ever once explained what you meant by this.