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America is stupid for excessive guns. But this is stupid in the other direction. Talk about over policing. Fuck me this is stupid
I feel like he could have been let off with a fine and confiscation where if he would do it again or act provocatively the prison sentence would apply. 4 months in prison is a lot
A suspended prison sentence makes too much sense. Gotta teach this nerd a lesson.
Prison? For this?
Just take it away and warn him. How did no one along the way protest the heavy handedness of this?
I agree with your point seeing as how the article dosen’t have this info, but the context that He’s a known burglar, has done at least 4 years in prison and ‘but it’s just a novelty item’ has been a tactic of criminals in England for a long time, it makes more sense why he was busted.
Oh, I guess I was assuming it wasn’t even sharp, like an actual novelty item.
It’s sharp metal, 6in. So roughly hand size, it’s more like a custom figurine type of deal.
Have police there never heard of a “letter opener”? 🤔
There’s a reason “zero tolerance” is also called “zero intelligence”.
The article conveniently fails to mention whether it was sharp (extremely unlikely, the cheap steel used for these can’t really hold an edge), and even more conveniently crops out the tip of the “blade” so we can’t even see if it was pointed (also extremely unlikely, toys like this almost always have blunted tips).
This isn’t a weapon, it’s a toy. Sure, you could hurt someone with it, just like you could hurt someone with a baseball bat.
Washington Post had a better picture: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/07/04/zelda-master-sword-jail-nuneaton/
I’m guessing it’s pretty much a letter opener. From a read, letter openers count, and many people are mocking the idea of a letter opener being included in such a ban.
I reckon the police wanted to bust him for some other reason. The Master Sword was just their excuse.
Before he obtains the tri-force of power and becomes unstoppable.
Police has that discretion and it is ripe for abuse.
That why there is the advice to “only do one crime at a time” I guess!
The term crime lost a lot of its meaning somewhere between 10 commandments and now…
I guess dude committed a crime here but most people prolly would not really care.
While others commit bigger crimes and we care, nothing gets done.
If you have lots of crimes on the books and police have enforcement discretion, that’s a recipe for targeting whoever they want.
His real crime was “Walking down the street whilst looking working class”.
I’m sure chief detective Ganon had a perfectly good reason. :)
With a bit more self-awareness, Bray could have avoided contact with us completely.”
With a shred of brain matter, Sgt Spellman and the bastards he works with, could have not pursued such a ridiculous “crime”.
This is not a ridiculous crime, that guy is dumb af and dangerous.
This is a bot account folks.
True, I’d still give them partial credit for the dumb statement.
Law says you can’t carry a knife bigger than 3 in. He carries a knife twice that size.
Does he carry concealed in his pocket?
No, He’s walking around carrying it openly pretending he’s a blade master, oh sorry that’s he claims it’s a fidget toy.
4 months in jail seems a bit excessive, but when the law says don’t carry a weapon and you carry a weapon…
Bot, or just a troll? Been seeing a lot of them recently.
it was only 15cm long. that’s at best a Master Dagger, not a master sword! still too long to be legal to carry out in public though.
It may be only a few centimeters, but you know what it could do if fully charged*.
(*I know, that’s what he said or something)
Too bad he’s a criminal now or id tell em to come to merica where he can carry a real pistol like a big boy
It’s dangerous to go alone! take this.
hands Link a glock
In addition to the four months in prison, he was required to pay a victim surcharge of £154.
So not only was there no victim here but himself he is also now out of work for a minimum of 4 months he’s now out 154 bucks. Fuck this world. Like ya, I get that there is that law for a reason, so sure, maybe give him a fine or better yet community service and then let him be on his way. What they have done benefits no one at all and wastes local resources.
bucks
Quid. We gotta be respectful.
Victim surcharge is just a fine with another name.
It goes to a fund that pays compensation for victims of crimes and £154 is just what you have to pay for any crime that results in you getting a jail sentence of 6 months or below.Sounds reasonable.
Some NotTheOnion type shit.
The blade was only 6 inches that’s a master dagger at best lmao
Four months in prison for getting caught on CCTV fidgeting with a sheathed letter opener
The handle is just 4cm or about 1.5 inches, so a grown man can’t even hold it in his hand properly, it is clearly a kids toy. He may have used for role playing, although he called it a fidget toy?
But beware of the master claymore
That’s called a Biggoron sword
dammit i said the same thing independently, but you were first by 12 hours. hats off to you, sir !
I know people are reacting strongly, prob a large US contingent here and that’s understandable. It is a completely different world in the UK. The police don’t carry firearms (specialist response teams do) as they are just not as available to the general public. Knives or clubs/bats are the most common weapon encountered. Even in that context I too find the sentence pretty heavy on the face of it. The article was rubbish at giving anything other than rage-bait. It didn’t explain if there were circumstances of aggravation, does he have form (ie prior same or related offences), were there vulnerable people in the vicinity, which specific charge was he accused with (possessing or threatening with) did he plead guilty, were there mitigating factors that actually reduced his sentence as the mandatory minimum sentence for “threatening with a weapon” is six months, eg did he cooperate, is he a sole caregiver for someone at home etc.
Only thing I’ve walked away knowing is the author of the article seemed more interested in provoking outrage and upping their hit count than demonstrating any investigative nous or journalistic integrity.
Nobody called. It was seen on CCTV. So someone saw him playing with his lil’ master sword and decided to fuck him.
Sometimes, when I’m not careful, I end up with stupid, dangerous UK-legal pocket knives so I’m always going to be critical of your auth bullshit.
Even though we have the gun nuts all over this fucked up country, we do manage to far outscore the UK on per capita knife crime as well. Yay us. I agree with your take on the motivation for the article.
victim surcharge of £154.
WHAT VICTIM??? The article says nothing of him doing anything to others. To my knowledge he didn’t attack anyone. There’s no victim!
He is the victim. It’s a charge on him.
Soooooo, either he should get the money, as the victim, or the charge is basically police charging victims money for being victims.
…I feel like I’m missing something here.
This “victim surcharge” would be termed court cost or court fee in the US.
What a strange name if thats the purpose.
I don’t make things up, I just look them up.
Oh, I wasn’t accusing you of lying. I was just saying it’s such a strange name for a charge that has a legitimate purpose, but is named in a way that has nothing to do with that purpose.
Kinda like if you took an uber, and they charged you for the “poopy diaper charge”. And you say nobody on your trip even wore a diaper. So the driver tells you it’s so he can refill his gas in the car.
Victims of every crime that has one.
It’s a fund for paying compensation to victims of crime and £154 is just what you have to pay to it if you get jailed for 6 months or below.So when someone does commit a crime that has a payout to a victim, it doesn’t matter if they have money or not as it comes from the fund to the victim first.
Kinda like… If you got hit with an extra vehicle/traffic insurance bill every time you get a speeding ticket or get caught driving drunk, even if you didn’t cause an accident.Oh, ok. Thats a far better description than the other guy said of just “court costs”.
I would say that America needs something like that, but, I just can’t see the money ACTUALLY going to victims. I see some policeman, or politician, or whomever, pocketing it if they tried that here.
Good feckin point!
I don’t know if this is the same but Sweden have a thing where you pay into a fund that helps victims of crimes. When a criminal gets convicted and has to pay a victim money, the state takes money out of the fund and pay the victim and then the fund tries to get the money from the criminal. This way it doesn’t become the victims problem that the criminal can’t pay.
Bit draconian hey. I admit the whole thing was stupid but considering he didn’t hurt anyone with this toy or show intention to do so a fine alone would have been more than enough. 4 months prison? Wtf
It’s the UK. They used to just aim guys like this at Scotland.
Four months of prison? It sounds like the man is disconnected from reality but hardly a real threat to society.
Seriously. I’ve seen letter openers more threatening than that “sword”. Was it dumb? Sure. Does he deserve a slap the wrist, absolutely. But prison?? No way. What the actual fuck?
The stupid thing is that the UK is literally running out of prison spaces currently so that we are considering letting long term prisioners out on licence early to free up room.
Yet apparently this man needs to have his life turned upsidedown in order to occupy one of those spaces for four months.
The cells are probably crammed full of cosplayers, student protestors and journalists. Remember that massive ruckus and manhunt for thee guy who was wandering around in a gimp suit making people feel uncomfortable?
“Our prisons have never been safer!”
It’s OK though because as soon as the prison guards turn their backs on him he will immediately escape on an eight inch paraglider.
gotta throw the book at him to get the numbers up so they look better when it comes to ignoring serious crime.
Draconian laws do be like that.
