“Stop worrying what other people think” is bad advice anyway.
It’s not like that’s a possibility for people with anxiety.
Give concrete advice: self affirmation, reflective writing, journaling positive feedback…
It’s also bad advice in general? The moment you stop caring what others think you become a terrible member of society. You’ll go around smelly, haggard, rude, in your pajamas and absolutely fail in life because you “don’t care what other people think”
I don’t agree in the slightest. Because if you care, you won’t do that probably. Self care is not about others, but about yourself, hence “self”. If you only bathe, are gentle, dress… because of others, maybe you have different issues
Wtf of course you can smell yourself. Also when you feel good, you are more attentive to positive things, and therefore less inclined to be rude. Ignorant maybe, yes. But that’s a different thing.
If you can actively smell yourself, you’re either putting on way too much deodorant and perfumes, or you’re really smelly. The human nose is designed to really quickly adapt to and not notice persistent scents
If you can actively smell yourself, you’re […] really smelly.
Yeah. Thanks for reinforcing my point. You wouldn’t go out in this state even if you give a fuck about other people, because it feels uncomfortable to you.
That’s beside the point. If you only care about your hygiene because of others, you’re neglecting your own comfort.
I’m not wearing deodorant, for example, because I don’t want to. I’m still not smelly in the negative sense (yes I asked), because I take showers regularly - and I take showers regularly because I care about my own body
That’s not what that implies. I’ve seen that argument from religious people describing how atheists must be unruly because they have no incentive to meet a good afterlife.
I can still be clean, look how I want, and be nice to others just because I want to and I like it when others do the same.
“Stop worrying what other people think” is bad advice anyway. It’s not like that’s a possibility for people with anxiety. Give concrete advice: self affirmation, reflective writing, journaling positive feedback…
It’s also bad advice in general? The moment you stop caring what others think you become a terrible member of society. You’ll go around smelly, haggard, rude, in your pajamas and absolutely fail in life because you “don’t care what other people think”
I don’t agree in the slightest. Because if you care, you won’t do that probably. Self care is not about others, but about yourself, hence “self”. If you only bathe, are gentle, dress… because of others, maybe you have different issues
These aren’t self care, you can’t smell yourself, pajamas are comfortable, and rudeness is to others by definition.
Wtf of course you can smell yourself. Also when you feel good, you are more attentive to positive things, and therefore less inclined to be rude. Ignorant maybe, yes. But that’s a different thing.
If you can actively smell yourself, you’re either putting on way too much deodorant and perfumes, or you’re really smelly. The human nose is designed to really quickly adapt to and not notice persistent scents
Yeah. Thanks for reinforcing my point. You wouldn’t go out in this state even if you give a fuck about other people, because it feels uncomfortable to you.
Ok, you’re just neutral enough that you can’t smell yourself. You still smell terrible to other people.
This doesn’t change the argument.
That’s beside the point. If you only care about your hygiene because of others, you’re neglecting your own comfort. I’m not wearing deodorant, for example, because I don’t want to. I’m still not smelly in the negative sense (yes I asked), because I take showers regularly - and I take showers regularly because I care about my own body
That’s not what that implies. I’ve seen that argument from religious people describing how atheists must be unruly because they have no incentive to meet a good afterlife.
I can still be clean, look how I want, and be nice to others just because I want to and I like it when others do the same.
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Oh, for sure.
But the meme is specific to “social identity”
Some beasts need a sword, others a harpoon. If only everyone had a BFG. Doesn’t work that way, though.