• Are_Euclidding_Me [e/em/eir]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    What is event meant by man and women being “equal”?

    That we’re all human beings who deserve to not have our gender determine what we can and cannot do? I think that’s pretty obvious. In practice, of course, we’re not there yet. Misogyny is rampant and insidious. But the goal in my mind is for gender to just legitimately not matter at all, outside of, like, romantic and sexual relationships.

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      1 year ago

      so if you need help lifting something heavy, do you ask a man or a woman? If you only see a group of strangers.

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        1 year ago

        Someone who looks stronger than me (not hard) and isn’t busy/has their hands full.

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          why don’t you give the idea some serious thought instead of weaseling your way out? To guide you more: Your only options are between a man and a woman who look equally muscular and you don’t have a lot of time to ask around. It’s noisy and you can only ask either one at a time, who do you ask? I’m OBVIOUSLY talking about those scenarios (even if rare…) where the relevant bit comes into play

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            If they appear to be as strong as each other, I’m asking the woman. I’m a woman - I’m more likely to be harmed by a strange man than I am a woman. It’s the safer option for me.

            But regardless, you’re being insulting and argumentative. Not only is it completely uncalled for, it’s against the rules of this community. This is your warning, if you break the rules again you will be banned. You can find the community rules and lemmy’s code of conduct in the sidebar.

            • Thordros [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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              Okay, but, what if it’s a life or death lifting scenario, where they need to lift a gunman who is going to shoot your children? You have to save either your son, or your two daughters who are half as valuable. The fffffemale lifter is also wearing airpods and cannot hear you.

              WHAT DO YOU DO??

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              I’m a woman. I’m more likely to be harmed by a strange man than I am a woman. It’s the safer option for me.

              Fair. But still, even if they look just as muscular, men are still generally stronger. Or at least if you if you couldn’t judge it clearly because they have clothes on. Say you are solely interested in the one who is stronger, then you would still only choose the man, not the woman. Even if this scenario is niche, it’s still possible and this precisely points out the crux of the problem. So in this scenario, can this be called unequality or morally wrong or whatever we started off?

              EDIT: So arguments are prohibited in this sub? I just read that. What the hell.

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                “EDIT: So arguments are prohibited in this sub? I just read that. What the hell.”

                Yup, arguing is actually against lemmy’s code of conduct if you read it. I’ve implemented it fairly strictly here because this is one of the few light-hearted non-meme communities on lemmy so far and I want it to be relaxed, friendly and welcoming place. After Reddit, it is so refreshing to have a space free of name calling, aggressiveness and brigading.

                There’s a stickied post explaining how this community is moderated and asking for feedback and input on how this community should be run. You’re welcome to leave your (polite) suggestion there, or volunteer to help moderate. Alternatively you can make your own community or join another if your prefer a more feisty atmosphere. I believe there’s another !confidentlyincorrect@lemmy.world but it’s dead. It’s not personal - the communities I’ve created are positive, enjoyable spaces, free of arguments. Or at least they are in theory. Modding is hard.

                EDIT; sorry, I’m confusing my communities. murderedbywords and confidently_incorrect have the same rules. I’m don’t think I’ve made a stickied post here yet but I will shortly.

      • booty [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        1 year ago

        I’d ask whoever looks strongest if I had to pick one, or the group in general for volunteers if I were in the real world. I’ve met some women who could shoulder press me if they wanted to. If you were looking for someone to help you move a couch, I could try, but you’d be better off asking those women.