WHAT

  • Former U.S. President Donald J. Trump was shot at a rally in PA.

TRUMPS STATEMENT

“I want to thank The United States Secret Service, and all of Law Enforcement, for their rapid response on the shooting that just took place in Butler, Pennsylvania. Most importantly, I want to extend my condolences to the family of the person at the Rally who was killed, and also to the family of another person that was badly injured. It is incredible that such an act can take place in our Country. Nothing is known at this time about the shooter, who is now dead. I was shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear. I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin. Much bleeding took place, so I realized then what was happening. GOD BLESS AMERICA!”

WHAT WE THINK WE KNOW SO FAR

  • gunman is dead
  • Trump “is fine”
  • one attendee is dead
  • another attendee is in critical condition

News Sources

  • jeffw@lemmy.worldM
    92·
    5 months ago

    Not really what I said at all. “Hey guys, don’t make stuff up, please rely on credible sources, and don’t advocate for violence”.

    Or, in other words: follow the rules we’ve always had in place

    • whoreticulture@lemmy.world
      68·
      5 months ago

      Advocating for, or not advocating for, violence is a political stance. Many people defend Israel’s ongoing genocide and are not blocked from doing so. That doesn’t feel like the rules being consistently enforced. The people speculating on whether or not this is staged have access to the same information as everyone else, and in the spirit of true discourse, if it was seen to be false you could figure that out by discussion rather than censorship.

          • jeffw@lemmy.worldM
            51·
            5 months ago

            If someone has made a claim that runs counter to commonly acknowledged information, please report it. If you need a few examples…

            You would need a source to say:

            • “the new COVID vaccine is dangerous because it has killed people”
            • “Donald Trump faked an attack on his life”
            • “this new medical treatment is extremely effective”

            You would NOT need a source to say:

            • “Donald Trump was subject of an assassination attempt” (commonly known and widely speculated to be an assassination attempt)
            • A personal preference like “Chocolate cake is the best kind of cake”
        • whoreticulture@lemmy.world
          15·
          5 months ago

          I don’t personally think it was staged, but be honest … it’s not like you delete every single comment that doesn’t have sources …

            • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
              1·
              5 months ago

              The virus was studied by multiple different healthcare agencies across multiple different continents.

              This is not comparable to the performance yesterday.

                • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
                  1·
                  5 months ago

                  Yes you personally did not compare the vaccine to the performance yesterday, that doesn’t mean other members of the mod team in this thread did not.

                  Edit: oh my bad you did, sorry about that.

                  “Covid misinformation is a good example.”

            • whoreticulture@lemmy.world
              22·
              5 months ago

              Speculating on an event that has already occured is not a “life or death situation” in the way spreading information that discourages the use of life-saving vaccines is.

                • whoreticulture@lemmy.world
                  1·
                  5 months ago

                  So you’re making moderation policy based on an assumption that people who have been exposed to the idea that the shooting may have been staged are more likely to incite violence than people who haven’t been? You don’t have source for that stance do you? One could argue that believing it is a failed assassination attempt would also incite people to violence. If a comment in particular calls for violence, thats one thing, but what you’re saying is not logical.

            • p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world
              11·
              5 months ago

              Here’s your source.

              https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/04/leader-of-the-pro-trump-project-2025-suggests-there-will-be-a-new-american-revolution-00166583

              NEW YORK — The leader of a conservative think tank orchestrating plans for a massive overhaul of the federal government in the event of a Republican presidential win said that the country is in the midst of a “second American Revolution” that will be bloodless “if the left allows it to be.”

              It’s INSANE to me that you’d suggest we do nothing or even promote political violence over this.

              • girlfreddy@lemmy.ca
                21·
                5 months ago

                Yet you seem to think acting like a petulant child is appropriate. Some of us have had our hands slapped because we crossed a line. But you can still act like an adult when it happens.

                If you don’t like the rules, fine. Then go elsewhere.

                • p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world
                  12·
                  5 months ago

                  …its nice to see how complacent and naive we have all become. Pathetic. This country deserves what’s coming if that’s the mind-set.