But they already do, so I second queermunist - why lick the boot already stomping on your neck?
“The right” isn’t a monolith, they have different tolerance levels, different triggers that enable or excuse worse behavior, changing with the norms of the particular Overton window and with the boundaries of “acceptable discourse.” When what is “acceptable discourse” degrades, it enables worse behavior. So at any given moment, some right-wingers are almost crazy enough to start killing, and presumably the strength of our norms is a part of that.
Note that none of this is about what is “justified.” Sure, it’s justified to act as badly as these bigots. But it doesn’t help, it just accelerates the spiral towards fascist conflict.
Yes. It is literally licking the boot stomping on their necks, the man has spent years actively acting against the community and contributing to a hostile environment that costs lives.
Pretending like being civil to a literal nazi is reasonable is bootlicking too.
Pretending like being civil to a literal nazi is reasonable is bootlicking too.
Ahh yes wrongthink to even have a discussion here that wasn’t one that would have the fbi knocking at my door
Ps - there’s worlds of difference between saying political violence is wrong and “lol fuck John mccain even though he died” because he was barely decent human garbage like the rest of his ilk. I don’t think encouraging political violence is necessarily on the same level
Do you think the right is waiting for permission from us? Did you forget about the plot to kidnap Gretchen Witmer? Or when Paul Pelosi was assaulted with a hammer by a right wing home invader? Or, you know, when they tried to do a coup?
This user has been posting shit like this a bunch. With headlines about how people are condemning the attempt. I wonder if there is an agenda behind it.
Jeffw? He’s an active Lemmy poster and mod of many communities and always posts a ton of news content. Considering the recent events, it’s not that surprising that a lot of news would be about groups paying lip service to wanting a fair political climate.
He has been posting headlines condemning the attempt specifically. just because he is a mod and active doesn’t mean he can’t be trying to garner sympathy for a fascist in power.
indeed. trump is completely removed from the suffering of others. everything has been performative so far. but the dems best be packing political heat in 72 hours or america is collectively cooked - but I have no faith that they will get their act together.
For fucken once I agree. At best the response shouldve been silence, just keep thine mouth shut. If ya only have good to say then its better to say nothing at all.
He won’t apologize for killing queer folks, what the fuck are they doing this for?
Because if “you approve of assassination then the right starts to assume it’s okay that you’re next”
But they already do, so I second queermunist - why lick the boot already stomping on your neck?
“The right” isn’t a monolith, they have different tolerance levels, different triggers that enable or excuse worse behavior, changing with the norms of the particular Overton window and with the boundaries of “acceptable discourse.” When what is “acceptable discourse” degrades, it enables worse behavior. So at any given moment, some right-wingers are almost crazy enough to start killing, and presumably the strength of our norms is a part of that.
Note that none of this is about what is “justified.” Sure, it’s justified to act as badly as these bigots. But it doesn’t help, it just accelerates the spiral towards fascist conflict.
This is wisdom, thank you for being the voice of reason.
Is it really bootlicking to say “back I don’t think it was cool to assassinate Trump”?
I mean it’s a lie but bootlicking?
Yes. It is literally licking the boot stomping on their necks, the man has spent years actively acting against the community and contributing to a hostile environment that costs lives.
Pretending like being civil to a literal nazi is reasonable is bootlicking too.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/romeo-kokriatski-respectability-politics-or-you-gotta-be-nice-to-monsters
Ahh yes wrongthink to even have a discussion here that wasn’t one that would have the fbi knocking at my door
Ps - there’s worlds of difference between saying political violence is wrong and “lol fuck John mccain even though he died” because he was barely decent human garbage like the rest of his ilk. I don’t think encouraging political violence is necessarily on the same level
Why is political violence worse than inciting and encouraging hate crimes on innocent people?
People always celebrate when shitty people die, no matter their position of power or who they are
Abortion bans are political violence.
Political violence is already here. You can’t stop it by being civil to Nazis
Do you think the right is waiting for permission from us? Did you forget about the plot to kidnap Gretchen Witmer? Or when Paul Pelosi was assaulted with a hammer by a right wing home invader? Or, you know, when they tried to do a coup?
The right already believes it’s okay.
This user has been posting shit like this a bunch. With headlines about how people are condemning the attempt. I wonder if there is an agenda behind it.
Jeffw? He’s an active Lemmy poster and mod of many communities and always posts a ton of news content. Considering the recent events, it’s not that surprising that a lot of news would be about groups paying lip service to wanting a fair political climate.
I think they mean the person who made the comment.
No I didn’t.
He has been posting headlines condemning the attempt specifically. just because he is a mod and active doesn’t mean he can’t be trying to garner sympathy for a fascist in power.
Step 1. Fascist attempt to overthrow government campaigning on eradicating LGBT
Step 2. “Hey that’s not good”
Step 3. “Hey stop pushing an agenda”
Bruh of course there’s an agenda. It’s called “wanting to not be eradicated”
I’m sorry that wanting what’s best for the world offends you. Maybe you should consider moving to Israel, I hear they don’t push agendas there.
Edit: unless you’re talking about op, in which case sorry.
Yes I’m talking about op being a typical liberal saying that people should condemn violence towards Nazis in power
indeed. trump is completely removed from the suffering of others. everything has been performative so far. but the dems best be packing political heat in 72 hours or america is collectively cooked - but I have no faith that they will get their act together.
For fucken once I agree. At best the response shouldve been silence, just keep thine mouth shut. If ya only have good to say then its better to say nothing at all.
Correct were annoyed it was an attempt