• Draghetta@lemmy.world
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        I don’t know, who is ignoring azov? When azov was still a thing - because they got decimated in Mariupol - everybody in the west knew they were nazi sympathisers. The problem was never “Russia is lying there are zero nazis”, it was “having a bunch of nazis integrated in the army doesn’t make it a nazi regime”. But yeah caricaturing the other side is very tempting.

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        I don’t know, which one is it? I’m not aware of any side actually painting the ss in a positive light, except for the imagination of Russians where the west is praising nazis all the time.

        Assuming that’s what you meant with “whitewashing”, because that ain’t what it means

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          Was the entire collective Canadian parliament giving an SS soldier a standing ovation and raucous applause, followed by defending it, not “praising Nazis”?

          The USA, Canada, and many of their allies fought to save as many Nazis from Nuremberg as they could. USA and Nazi Germany inspired each other. Nazi officers, generals, scientists, politicians, and others were given intense PR rehabilitation and integrated into Western society; many were immediately given their old positions back in Western Germany.

          The USA and its allies supported fascism over and over and over again in the Middle East, Latin America, Africa, Asia, Eastern Europe. Even in Western Europe, they set forth with Operation Gladio where Neo Nazi paramilitaries would be funneled weapons and arms, ready to strike and kill civilians should the peoples of Europe rise against their ruling classes.

          Twice in recent years, the UN has proposed legislation to “combat Nazism/Neo Nazism and its glorification.” Each time, the USA and Ukraine were the only ones who voted “no,” and the only ones who abstained from voting were the rest of the US’s allies.

          I’m sorry my friend but if you live in the West, you live as a part of a Nazi Empire. We were committing industrial genocide before the Nazis were shitting diapers.

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          Where were you when the Canadian parliament gave an standing ovation to a member of the SS ?

          They conveniently didn’t mention he was a SS, but a “veteran who fought for ukrainian independence against russian aggressors”. That’s literally what whitewashing is, to gloss over or cover up stuff, in this case being a SS member.

          Its only “russian propaganda” because they got caught.

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      excerpt context: after the UA government had decided to add to the list the 110th birthday of nazi collaborator bandera to the list of days worthy of commemoration.

      “Glorifying the person whose men committed countless heinous crimes is an insult to the victims and an unthinkable distortion of the history of the world’s most horrific genocide," said Dr. Zuroff.

      “Unfortunately in recent years, Ukraine has been one of the major propagators of a distorted version of Holocaust history which seeks to hide or minimize crimes committed by Ukrainian nationalists,” he added.

      Weitzman added, "It is clear that Ukraine is choosing to rehabilitate antisemitism and to censor history.” He noted that, along with the Bandera national holiday, the Ukrainian region of Lviv announced that 2019 would be “Stepan Bandera Year” and that a book exploring the antisemitic actions of politician Simon Petlura, who led 1919 pogroms against Jews, was banned.

      “By joining with other countries that are rewriting history Ukraine is showing how little it has learned from the tragedies of the past. These actions are a disgraceful affirmation of Ukraine’s darkest past and an absolute rejection of democratic values,” Weitzman concluded.

      mind you there are streets named him. You aren’t even slightly suspicious that maybe the narrative we’re being told on MSM is fabricated?