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    Sure, fuck hexbear…but congress literally did give a standing ovation to a mass murderer, there is no getting around that reality. That’s not me, it was literally on NPR. Biden is a staunch supporter of mass murder who has blood on his hands.

    Hexbear being full of tankies doesn’t make it ok to support genocide.

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        Yes, but Republicans are given. Half of Democrats also joined in, that’s the problem. The Democratic party needs to be in opposition to zionism like it’s meant to be opposed to every other form of fascism.

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          It’s not a given. Lemmy is under a constant barrage of comments only attacking Biden and the Dems for supporting Isreal and therefore genocide. The blame is only put on Biden and the Dems.

          Keeping perspective of how much worse the Republicans are in this specific regard if extremely imperious during this election. Being critical of the Dems is fine, but keeping the real context is vital.

          The objective of these users who only criticize the Dems is clear. Stop falling for it.

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              It’s split. Democrats control the presidency and sort of the senate, Republicans control the house and the supreme court.

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              They aren’t in charge, they aren’t even able to pass laws without republican support, and Republicans are so fractured they can’t even make salient policy objectives in exchange for support.

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        I didn’t equate voting dem as genocide support. If you vote for a zionist though, that is active support of genocide. In that situation you’re signaling to the party that it’s acceptable to have genocide supporters in the party, as long as the other option is “worse”.

        That’s a calculation you’re free to weigh for yourself, but it is still genocide support. Same way voting for an openly racist politician is in support of racism.

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          Have you not received your new talking points yet? Harris is not a zionist afaik.

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            Being opposed to genocide supporters is not a “talking point” it’s not a “trick”. Genocide is simply against the very core of my belief about how we’re meant to treat other human beings.

            So when a Democrat supports genocide, I want them out of the party and I see those who choose to ignore that candidates genocidal views as complicit themselves as well since they are responsible for putting that person into as position of power despite knowing the ugly truth. Hopefully that’s clear enough for you to allow yourself to understand. It’s very odd to have to spell it out like this for you though.

            Harris is not a zionist afaik.

            Harris does not appear to be ideological like Biden, that is true and a promising sign, but that’s not really related to the point I’m making – while zionists like Biden and his supporters do obviously help keep the slaughter going, one doesn’t necessarily have to be a committed zionist to help fuel the genocide. One could choose to do it for any number of reasons (ex. cowardice, political convenience etc.), we will see if Harris’ actions match up with her rhetoric. She doesn’t get an automatic pass on being a moral human being, this isn’t a cult of personality like the GOP.

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              That all makes it hard to say whether Harris would call herself a Zionist. But she has repeatedly expressed support for Israel’s existence as a Jewish state, favorably quoted from Herzl’s Zionist manifesto and raised money for the Jewish National Fund. source