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    Generally, Leftists believe it can only happen via revolution.

    I’m an outsider and I don’t really know much about Leftist thought. I’m curious what the general belief among Lefists is for why this revolution hasn’t happened? (In the capitalist West that is?)

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      Marxists believe it is due to Imperialism, also known as Unequal Exchange. Western Capitalist countries export the vast bulk of their poverty to foreign countries with cheaper labor to make a wider proportion of profit, similar to the idea of countries functioning as Bourgeoisie and Proletarian.

      Whether you agree with Lenin’s analysis of the State and Revolutionary methods, I have yet to find a Leftist that disagrees with his arguments in Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism.

      What we are seeing is an increase in Anti-Western sentiment among the Global South, as conditions deteriorate and expropriation increases. As this revolutionary pressure builds, the weakest links pop, so to speak, weakening Western Hegemony and driving their own Proletariat closer to revolution.

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        Marxists believe it is due to Imperialism

        I’m not sure exactly what you mean by “imperialism” here but regardless, what is the solution to imperialism according to Marxists?

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          I elaborated on it later, it’s the concept of exporting the bulk of industrial production to foreign countries to super-exploit for super-profits.

          Imperialism defeats itself in much the same way Capitalism does, it increases in severity and exploitation until a boiling point is reached, and the country in the Global South moves towards domestic production and nationalization of their resources and products, rather than serving as an outsourced factory for wealthy Capitalists abroad.

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            I don’t think we’re communicating. I asked what Marxists’ solution to imperialism is. I can’t see any solution in what you’ve written here.

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              What do you specifically mean? I just said Imperialism defeats itself, and people in the Global South can act against it by protecting their own production and resources.

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                So you’re saying Marxists have no solution to imperialism?

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                  They do. Supporting movements in the Global South against Imperialism by the Global North. Looking at the nature of Imperialism dialectically, it appears to be deteriorating as exploitation increases, so these movements are gaining momentum. This is what I mean when I say Imperialism defeats itself, as exploitation increases (as it must to counter the Tendency for the Rate of Profit to Fall), it also increases pressure against itself from those it exploits.

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                    Supporting movements in the Global South against Imperialism

                    We’re not communicating. That’s not a “solution” as I understand it.

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                Imperialism defeats itself

                If imperialism defeats itself why is it still around?

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                  I’m specifically referring to Capitalism as it turns to Imperialism, also known as Unequal Exchange. A

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                    I don’t follow. You haven’t answered my question.