So let me start off by saying that I recognize that there was initially a genuine problem with people who didn’t want NSFW content being exposed to it.

Some of this was due to the fact that not all content was being correctly flagged as NSFW, and some of it was because a lot of users didn’t realize that individual users can choose to completely block an entire instance - which is not only a very easy and fast solution, but also does not require an all-or-nothing approach of defederating from NSFW instances.

A number of changes were made, but some of those lingering changes have meant that people who do want to see NSFW content are not because:

  1. Even having subscribed to several NSFW subs, they are effectively completely missing from my feed.

  2. Most NSFW thumbnails are blurred.

Both of these behaviors should not be occurring if a user has chosen in their settings to NOT hide NSFW content.

However, I will also say that the blurred state is something that deserves its own user setting (i.e. so that a user can choose to NOT hide NSFW, but still want them blurred or not) - preferably with the granularity to set it for various sub-types of NSFW (e.g. porn, gore, etc…).

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    That’s the entire point of the fediverse, if you don’t like how content is served to you in one instance, you move to another instance. I am not heading over to lemmynsfw.com and complaining about how consuming SFW content is difficult over there either. You can still consume either content on either platform if you want to but having the two main instances, which currently are kbin.social and lemmy.world, focus on SFW content and neglecting NSFW content makes perfect sense.

    Many people are going to use kbin in public and then not having NSFW content pop up on accident is super important. And while user customization is always a nice thing to have, I can totally understand that the devs of kbin currently have other priorities. And so taking the more drastic approach is perfectly fine.

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      (Assuming this bug is fixed and people are properly marking nsfw) Then they should opt out of showing nsfw so it doesn’t show up for them instead of preventing me from getting it served to me here where I have opted in. I would like the ability to organically find communities as they show up on All instead of specifically searching

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      You have no right to say that the way you, personnally, use kbin is to be forced on everyone else.

      Different people have different preferences. Kbin is perfectly capable of addressing both major branches on this issue, so it doesn’t make sense to throw away one entire side just because you prefer the other.

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        Edit: So I’m leaving what I said just cause I feel like you gotta own up to your mistakes, but this is an editing note that I was in the wrong with this specific comment, and I was the dummy actually responding to the wrong person🫠

        That’s not what I said though? I have the option to opt in other people have the option to opt out and we can all be here. That is what I was trying to say to someone who, in my opinion, seemed to be saying “no, there is a different place for that, go there for that”. Given bug fixes, proper moderation, and users marking content correctly there’s no reason we cannot coexist here. The person I was responding to was saying I should start a lemmy account on a nsfw instance for nsfw content which seems much more akin to what you appear to be implying that I am saying. I want the bug to eventually be fixed and am in disagreement with people who appear to be saying “good, I like it that way, no fix needed”, people who, in fact, are disagreeing with you specifically given you are the OP

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          If you look at the nesting, you’ll see that I wasn’t responding to you, but to Hillock.

          I actually agreed with your post. :)

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            Oh my, I’m actually so embarrassed. I swear I thought I followed a notification to the comment, but I totally didn’t it isn’t in my notifications, that makes sooo much more sense bleh

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              I get where you’re coming from. I think it’s the result of being subscribed to a thread we comment in - so we get notifications when someone posts anywhere in that thread, not just directly to our comments.

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        I have the same right to voice my opinion that the current directions taken by kbin are something I agree with as it is OPs right to voice their opinion that they don’t agree. Otherwise, it would be impossible to have a discussion. If I stay silent than it would appear as if everyone is agreeing with OP.

        And kbin isn’t throwing away NSFW content, you can still consume it in its entirety here. It is just presented in a way where it’s less visible than in some other instances. I think NSFW content not showing up on Top or Hot even if you have it enabled is the right decision. Always having thumbnails blurred is also the right decision.

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          If you have chosen to hide NSFW content, then what do you care if people who have it enabled have it as part of their feed?

          What do you think the point is of subscribing to a sub is if it isn’t incorporated into your feed? You are literally asking to break how kbin is designed to work.