• Belly_Beanis [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Just because you’re part of one group doesn’t mean you’ve extrapolated your experiences to the experiences of others. A lot of people are opposed to discrimination they personally are affected by, but are 10000% okay with similar shit happening to other demographics. A lot of gay men are misogynistic. A lot of white women are racist. A lot of black people are antisemitic. A lot of Asians are homophobic. And so on and so forth.

    What zero intersectionality does to a MF.

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      And when you’re someone who is not white, straight, male, or cis, people having zero intersectionality will make you want to rip your hair out.

      I may or may not be speaking from experience here.

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      I know about the misogynistic gay men, I can see the white women being racist ez, either by being explicit or fetishization(spelled right I hope), I’m going to go on a limb and guess that n.o.i. and similar ideology fuels black antisemitism? I think the homophobia is based off of succession, honor, tradition etc maybe? And yeah I get not seeing each other’s oppression too, it’s just still wild that the short-term gains of voting along class lines is deemed more beneficial than the face that’s going to be eaten by a leopard. Like why not run as a candidate yourself or find a libertarian that won’t throw minorities into the grinder (metaphorically) FOR THE LINE! I guess the ‘IT WON’T HAPPEN TO ME’ school of thought runs deep when you’ve got enough money to throw around. Keep in mind. The house is kinda dumpy. Like it doesn’t look bad but it’s not gonna be something he could retire off of but who knows housing prices are crazy rn.

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        A variety of things fuel black antisemitism. NOI being one of them. There are the supremacist types that cope with racism by ignoring material reality and actual black history in favor of claims like black people built the great wall of china or were the first to invent [thing that was invented by rich white european]. Often times the conclusion is white colonizers erase the “true history”… with the jews dictating everything. Sometimes it’ll even circle from hating white people to praising Hitler lol.

        The homophobia in a lot of POC culture may come conservatism that’s native to their culture, but it may also stem from being afraid that the discrimination the POC group is facing may lose attention to LGBT problems which they consider unimportant and white people problems, especially if their culture doesn’t have a strong presence or positive reception to LGBT people in the first place.

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          I’ll never forget the time a Japanese American conservative on Instagram told me that me being a black non-binary person is the product of me having a “”““white liberal friend group.””“” cringe

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      I can attest to this. My family will constantly complain about racism and discrimination against Asian people, but the they’ll repeat the same discrimination against everyone else, including Asian people lol.

      There’s also conservatives with gay children. While many go ballistic and denounce and abuse them, others rationalize this by thinking “well, my kid was raised by me, and I’m normal, so they’re normal too even if they’re not straight! I’m totally fine with them being gay. But as for the other gays….” For example, Ted Cruz has a bisexual daughter. Shortly after her suicide attempt, she went on social media to say her dad didn’t have anything to do with it and that they’re close. It could be PR, but I believe it. He doesn’t restrict her sexuality, but he also doesn’t bring attention to it and they’re rich enough to be protected in any case. Some conservatives have “spoken out” in defense when their children come out as gay or trans, but usually after the kid has been bullied and they see the first hand effects of their ideology.