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Hate it when two bad bitches fight like this
TBH, accusing a Georgian of “Russian chauvinism” is galaxy brain.
This is just “zelensky is jewish so he could never facilitate nazism” type argumentation, this was addressed during the debates at the time as they were specifically centered around the invasion of Georgia
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1922/dec/testamnt/autonomy.htm
https://www.marxists.org/glossary/events/g/e.htm#georgian-incident
“I think it is unnecessary to explain this to Bolsheviks, to Communists, in greater detail. And I think that in the present instance, as far as the Georgian nation is concerned, we have a typical case in which a genuinely proletarian attitude makes profound caution, thoughtfulness and a readiness to compromise a matter of necessity for us. The Georgian [Stalin] who is neglectful of this aspect of the question, or who carelessly flings about accusations of “nationalist-socialism” (whereas he himself is a real and true “nationalist-socialist”, and even a vulgar Great-Russian bully), violates, in substance, the interests of proletarian class solidarity, for nothing holds up the development and strengthening of proletarian class solidarity so much as national injustice; “offended” nationals are not sensitive to anything so much as to the feeling of equality and the violation of this equality, if only through negligence or jest- to the violation of that equality by their proletarian comrades. That is why in this case it is better to over-do rather than under-do the concessions and leniency towards the national minorities. That is why, in this case, the fundamental interest of proletarian class struggle, requires that we never adopt a formal attitude to the national question, but always take into account the specific attitude of the proletarian of the oppressed (or small) nation towards the oppressor (or great) nation.”
Stalin’s (and coincidentally Rosa Luxemburg’s) critique of this position was that it would strengthen nationalisms of national minorities and their nationalisms would be just as hostile to socialism as Russian nationalism. In fact, this difference of positions was driven by differing experiences - Lenin worked in predominantly Russian groups and mostly fought against Russian nationalism, while Stalin worked in Caucasian branch and fought local nationalisms there.
Actual Soviet policies were a compomise between positions of Lenin and Stalin, with great linguistic and political autonomy for national republics, but with military, educational and most economic questions being decided by central authorities,Agreed, nevertheless, dismissing it as “lmao Georgian” is 1-dimensional
About as much as calling Stalin “Russian chauvinist”, TBH.
I love how both Lenin and Stalin called the other one a lib at least once. Some things are eternal.
Reminds me of this
Ow my brain
TL;DR: Ackshually Nazism not that bad
I swear to God conservapedia is an elaborate bit being done by Andy Kaufman.
What do you think of this self-proclaimed Russian analogue to Conservapedia?
I think their selected history of the USA is hilarious (use machine translation, it’s in Russian): http://traditio.wiki/Соединённые_Штаты_Америки
I can’t read Russian D:
Why am I not on this list
You’re on my list bb
You’re on my list
Don’t worry, next time I’m drunk I’ll probably add “hexbear.net” and get IP banned
Maybe not there but there’s probably somewhere you could sneak Hexbear on there as liberals and have the chuds agree
I think of you more as an infamous bit than a lib
Beans Lettuce Tomato sandwich
Potato potato
This is fake because HUSSEIN isn’t fully capitalized smh
There’s also no “Sheik” before the name of Stalin.
The way this list is structured is enough of a joke on its own
Richard Dawkins
Yeah, pretty much
John Wayne Gacy
Throwing in a serial killer to discredit them, I guess that makes sense
Barack Hussein Obama
We’re totally not racist
Adolf Hitler
Gacy was a registered democrat
It doesn’t mean much though since Bundy and Baumeister were republicans. I guess with Gacy is that he has connections to other serial killers and pedophiles who were part of a larger network, but not much tying political figures to it. Baumeister was very wealthy and a businessowner so he likely had some political connections.
He was pretty politically active actually, locally in the democratic party. But I wouldn’t say he is the only democrat who loves systematic mass murder
But I wouldn’t say he is the only democrat who loves systematic mass murder
:brandon:
Gacy: “I killed a fuck ton of people.”
Joedolf Bidler: “Hold my beer.”
the trusworthy encyclopedia
the
worthy encyclopædia?She’s practically Stalin by American standards
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myself
excuse you, im the only leftist here
I would call Hitler a fucking lib to his face.
There’s no way this isn’t a bit
Many conservatives think Hitler and Mussolini was a communist/leftist.
Trust me, it isn’t.
“NO U!” is practically a staple argument of CHUDs.
this is hilarious
This unironically made me laugh the fuck out way too fucking loud.
Jesus Christ, I’ve never seen a Hexbear post that tickled me this much.
they didnt need to do my boys
and 
like thiswould definitely call Hitler a lib to his face though
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Started reading their take of the Battle of Stalingrad on there just now and they suggest that the reason the Russians won was because Stalin knew a secret Russian Orthodox way to invoke God
Very powerful
Conservapedia tryna make Stalin look even more badass
Sorta, it’s kind of a funny read because they go somewhat factual, i.e. it looks bleak, and then instead of acknowledging Nazi Germany’s inability to strategize they just go with Stalin gets the mandate of heaven here
Yeah that’s fucking stupid & pretty goddamn funny
I was looking for this in there but couldn’t find any references to what you’re saying. Please let me know where you read this so I can share in the glory of Russian Orthodox god.
https://www.conservapedia.com/Joseph_Stalin#World_War_II
It was during this time that Stalin famously invoked the name of God and allowed religious service
Directly under stalins page
