[Discussion] Should votes be displayed publicly? · Issue #4967 · LemmyNet/lemmy
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Question I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts on possibly making votes public. This has been discussed in a lot of other issues, but here's a dedicated one for discussion. Positives Could help figh...
  • shadowbert@lemmy.worldEnglish
    7·
    3 months ago

    Redditors did that, rather than reddit I’d argue. Still the same result of becoming a far less useful heuristic though.

    Not really sure how to “fix” a system like that, which depends on the masses to do something correctly. They… don’t.

      • shadowbert@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        3 months ago

        What alternatives to votes would you propose to handle this better? Because I have no doubt the same thing will happen here too…

        It’s just how people work, especially when things get heated. That said, perhaps that’s a poor example as a heated discussion isn’t necessary a helpful/constructive one…

    • rglullis@communick.newsEnglish
      1·
      3 months ago

      We can fix that by having moderators that can establish clear guidelines and show enough authority and can be trusted by the community. And yes, if the guidelines include something like:

      Downvotes are not for disagreement. It’s fine to downvote if the argument is false or deliberately misleading, but if someone is making a good faith argument that you disagree with, either make a constructive response or simply let it go

      Then the mods would be completely justified to call out users who are drive-by downvoting.

      • AchtungDrempels@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        3 months ago

        Or some self entitled 3rd party admin would do that just because they’d feel like people owed them explanations.

        • rglullis@communick.newsEnglish
          11·
          3 months ago

          Hey, do I owe you anything for all the space I’m taking in your head or am I still living rent-free?

          • AchtungDrempels@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            3 months ago

            If you did it would not be rent free, or would it, einstein. But no worry, i don’t think about you, just this topic and your enthusiasm for it triggered my reply :)

            Have a downvote for going off topic and “personal”.

            • rglullis@communick.newsEnglish
              11·
              3 months ago

              You are the one pontificating in my comment, and I am the one going personal. Seems like your reasoning is as good as your reading comprehension.

              But hey, thanks for stopping by!

      • shadowbert@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        3 months ago

        But… we had those on reddit. I didn’t see many actual examples of the “moderator gone power crazy” stereotype that is so often echoed there (especially by people who fully deserved the moderator action they received).

        The issue wasn’t that the rules were clear. The issue was that people refused to read them in the first place, and became hyper-defensive and obstinate whenever they were called out on it, even by moderators.

        • rglullis@communick.newsEnglish
          1·
          3 months ago

          No moderator went on to call out users who were down voting for disagreement, because this data is not public on Reddit.