• mommykink@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    The only group we should be blaming is Wall Street predators who have made billions “investing”(1) in private housing, and that group of people is made up of people of all age groups.

    Stop falling for the divisionist propaganda these people put design to keep the fighting within the lower class. If you understood just how much of this country a very small group of entities owned, you’d realize that the problem isn’t Cathy and William Hareman, both aged 75, who have decided they don’t want to navigate the real estate market at this point in their lives. It’s Wall Street, always has been, always will be.


    1. Investment implies risk; there is no risk involved in holding human needs for ransom. A small pool of sociopaths have gamed the system to do something no person with a conscience would consider acceptable to add zeros to a number on a computer screen.
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      These people aren’t completely blameless. Home owners as a class have a vested interest in seeing their property values go up and will take actions to see that happen. This includes not only improvements on the property but also supporting policies to prevent high density affordable housing, school desegregation and public transit. The suburban sprawl and housing shortage were currently suffering through are a direct result of those policies. The real estate wealth of boomers was built off the exclusion of the lower classes and letting them off the hook and just blaming corporations will make us overlook the next generation who inherit these houses and will try to keep the same exclusionary policies.

      Just how much of real estate is owned by corporate entities? Looks like they own 3.8% of single family homes, probably a larger percent of apartments but still probably under 10% as most of them are owned by “mom and pop” operations. Thats not enough to cause the housing problems we currently have. We need to recognize housing as an investment causes a perverse incentive to restrict supply in anyone, not just greedy corporations and to lower the cost of housing will require those people using it as an investment to lose money.

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        Exactly. Relatively wealthy private home owners tend to lean towards maintaining the status quo since it seems to be working in their favor. It’s the same as with the discussion about taxing unrealized capital gains above 100 million. People who aren’t even close to that number are afraid of this because they fear it’ll develop into further legislation and ultimately become a threat to their own wealth. It’s not just the 1% but also many of the top 20 or even 30% that feel a strong incentive to keep things from changing. They definitely carry a big part of the responsibility and the largest potential for change with their votes.

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        3 months ago

        Where’s the greed in not wanting to deal with a stressful move and stay in the home you’ve been in for (probably) decades and have either paid off or have a great interest rate on? That’s just logic. You’d do the exact same.

        The “housing crisis” is fueled entirely Wall Street. Stop blaming single-home owners who have the exact same thing you want too

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          They own the majority of the homes even though we have 3 generation that are of age that precede them. They voted in policies that subsidized landlords and kept young families renting. Even now they’re doing nothing to mitigate this new issue they’re causing other than using their tremendous economic power to protect themselves at the expense of everyone else.

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            I know this is just anecdotal, but I know dozens of my generation that have had to move back in with their parents – If their parents had downsized, they wouldn’t have that opportunity. Stop painting them as evil for wanting to stay in their home. It’s misguided at best. Their houses are just as much a security for them, as well as their descendants. That’s what “generational wealth” is.

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        I dont think we can blame boomers for not wanting to move in a terrible market while old as fuck.

        I mean, you can blame them for being a part of why the market is so shitty, but that blame doesn’t land evenly or entirely.