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      well assembly is technically “source code” and can be 1:1 translated to and from binary, excluding “syntactic sugar” stuff like macros and labels added on top.

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        But those things you’re excluding are the most important parts of the source code…

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          By excluded he means macro assemblers which in my mind do qualify as an actual langauge as they have more complicated syntax than instruction arg1, arg2 …

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        The code is produced by the compiler but they are not the original source. To qualify as source code it needs to be in the original language it was written in and a one for one copy. Calling compiler produced assembly source code is wrong as it isn’t what the author wrote and their could be many versions of it depending on architecture.

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          From the point of view of the decompiler machine code is indeed the source code though

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          And? Decompilers aren’t for noobs. So what if it gives you variable and function names like A000, A001, etc?

          It can still lead a seasoned programmer where to go in the raw machine code to mod some things.

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          No, it’s actually better when you can read the machine code.

          Most folks don’t care to recompile the whole thing when all they wanna do is bypass the activation and tracker shit.

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            Having access to the source code actually makes reading machine code easier, so you’re also wrong on this entirely different thing you’re going on about.

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              You’ve clearly never used a disassembler such as HIEW have you? You get the entire breakdown of the assembly code.

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                  I didn’t say it was. I just said loosely what the OG meme said, if you know how to read assembly, you know how to read (and write) what some of the code does.

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              I never said disassembly or decompiling was easier in any way. I’ll agree with you on that, it’s way more difficult.

              Back to the point of the meme though, if you can read assembly, you can read it all.

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                  I’ve written drivers in 65 bytes of code. I don’t tend to use high level languages that hide what’s going on behind the scenes.