• Mummelpuffin@beehaw.org
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        GrapheneOS is a heavily security-focused fork of Android with no Google anything in it by default. Ironically the developers have chosen to support the Google Pixel specifically.

  • Knighthawk 0811@lemmy.one
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    this is how Android has been forever. Jellybean was the most popular until around Nougat.

    People keeping their phones for a longer time shouldn’t be considered a bad thing. Cheap brands using old versions isn’t good though and that does represent some of the numbers.

    • Bob@midwest.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      I feel like at this point Google should ditch the annual OS level-up. Phones and their OSs have matured and pushing out a new version every year is just increasing the support Google has to provide without much benefit. I was running Android 9 until recently, and while I’m now on the 14 beta, I could easily see my current phone lasting long enough to outlive the current 5 years of security updates promised.

  • loki@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    Google isn’t building an software/hardware ecosystem, it’s building an ad empire. It justs needs its footprint calling back home on as most devices as possible. I don’t think it ever cared about which android version is highest (except for PR)

  • Swintoodles@beehaw.org
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 year ago

    I really should get a new phone… didn’t realize they drop old OSes so fast from security patches lol.

    • Hirom@beehaw.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      When buying a new phone, you could pick one that garantees 4-5 years of security updates.

      Android update policy by top manufacturers for their flagships

      Fairphone 4 has an incredible 5-year warranty, aims for 6 years of updates

      Be aware of difference between security updates and features updates. For instance Fairphone 3 has Android 11 with regular security updates, I personally think that’s good since it provides stability and security, and the phone works perfectly fine. Some prefer getting new features faster, but feature updates may be bumpier.

      • derived_allegory@beehaw.org
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        Take this with a grane of salt, garentee update doesn’t garentee “speedy” update. OnePlus is notorious for this: their older phone stop receive meaningful update after at most a year. The update significantly lag behind that of google, despite their promise of long term support.

        AFAIK google pushes update to supported phone at the same time. I don’t know about Samsung.

  • witchonabike@discuss.tchncs.de
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 year ago

    I was looking at mp3-players, and some of those are running android 4. I don’t think we’re getting rid of legacy androids any time soon

  • Nathan Campos@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 year ago

    It’s quite sad that Google never figured out a way around this issue. The real problem is that they push the responsibility of updating to OEMs, which have no interest in updating their “old phones” (1 year old in most cases) because a new shiny one has been released.

    I think the only way to really solve this is to make Android like Windows used to be back in the XP days. OEMs get a base system and they can customize it to their hearts content, but the updates to the base always come straight from the OS developer, no matter if the “OEM customizations” are ready for it or not.

    • V ‎ ‎ @beehaw.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      1 year ago

      This is really how Google should have built things in the beginning. Provide a stable driver API for hardware then upgrade the OS as needed without OEM cooperation. They are just now getting around to it with things like Treble, IIRC.

      • Nathan Campos@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        Even with things like Treble the updates still have to come from the OEM, so unfortunately I don’t see the situation changing any time soon.