• pjwestin@lemmy.world
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    Sure, just like we created a story about him fucking a couch to bring attention to what a weird little choad he is.

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    “If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people we win, then that’s what I’m going to do.”

    Yea, we already knew that JD, thanks.

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      Right? I get that some of middle America feels slighted, and I’m all for preventing the hollowing out of small town America, but I don’t see lying xenophobic scapegoating being the answer here. That’s how you get nationalist parties and paramilitary “cultural enforcement” groups.

      Instead, I see a need to foster and fund community organizations and civil engagement. Improved infrastructure and green spaces. More affordable housing - bring people back into the towns rather than the outskirts of it. But unfortunately, oddly, for some reason, that’s not as easy of a sell as the “people be eating your pets” trope.

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        They think it’s “smart people’s” fault, and those college educated, holier-than-thou smarty pants folks with their big words and fancy wine-sippin’ need to be punished. I think a lot of them know they’re being misled, they just don’t really care.

        They know we hate Trump, and so that’s a good enough indication that he must be the solution. Very simple-minded stuff.

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          In philosophy, ressentiment (/rəˌsɒ̃.tiˈmɒ̃/; French pronunciation: [ʁə.sɑ̃.ti.mɑ̃] ⓘ) is one of the forms of resentment or hostility. The concept was of particular interest to some 19th-century thinkers, most notably Friedrich Nietzsche. According to their use, ressentiment is a sense of hostility directed toward an object that one identifies as the cause of one’s frustration, that is, an assignment of blame for one’s frustration.[1] The sense of weakness or inferiority complex and perhaps even jealousy in the face of the “cause” generates a rejecting/justifying value system, or morality, which attacks or denies the perceived source of one’s frustration. This value system is then used as a means of justifying one’s own weaknesses by identifying the source of envy as objectively inferior, serving as a defense mechanism that prevents the resentful individual from addressing and overcoming their insecurities and flaws. The ego creates an enemy to insulate themselves from culpability.

      • bamfic@lemmy.world
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        Unions. Tax the rich. Enforce environmental and labor laws. House the homeless. Fund education. This is all fixable but the billionaires who own us don’t want it fixed.

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    So this is surely enough grounds to sue, if not criminally prosecute, this cunt.

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        They’ll take the Alex Jones’s defense… “I’m not responsible for what our supporters do. I just say false things until our supporters actually feel like they need to do violence to save the country.”

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          Yeah, and how did that work out for jones.?

          Although he’s still out there, his assets should be garnished down to the social minimum.

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            Alex Jones’s is a ant compared to Trump and JD. Any case against them will go up to the Supreme Court… And we all know how that ends.

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    “If you think my Haitian stories are bad, just wait until I start making up stories about Jews. I get most of my “news” from this website called 4chan. Ever heard of it?”

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    Doesn’t “so hungry they eat cats” indicate the failures of the food safety net and the suffering of the immigrants? I don’t get why this story would make anyone with an ounce of empathy less sympathetic to immigrants instead of more sympathetic.

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          Do you really think they’re talking about Haitians? If you see someone stealing and eating a pet, how do you know they’re Haitian? Even if you hear an accent. Maybe they’re from another island in the Caribbean.

          This is about black people.

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            Uhh no.

            I mean it is literally about Haitians though, as the city of Springfield Ohio already had been incentivizing cheap import labor to take over for the American labor that had left and wouldn’t work for low wages.

            Literally, a guaranteed work status and easy entry because of destabilizing forces in Haiti has meant a huge influx to the point that now more than 1 in 4 residents in Springfield are in fact Haitian.

            It doesn’t mean that outlandish stories to create fear and tension are a good idea but just casually changing the details to say it’s about black people is you also trying to push a narrative on a struggling city with many real issues that are its own.

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              This all started with a couple of pictures of black people with dead animals. Those people were called Haitian whether they were or not because it’s easier to get away with that.

              You cannot tell someone is Haitian just by looking at them.

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                No it started with a hodunk town being stressed by its changing landscape that is putting stress on its local residents and the Haitians that are moving there creating a powder keg of stressed resources like housing, traffic and jobs, being used as a political tool.

                I understand that people are using this to use to point at generalized black people and racism (just look at you) but there is a legitimate story and starting seed for this that starts before the pandering that is happening now.

                Problems can exist before you see the smoke and the problem is not the smoke but the potential fire that somehow does seem to be ignored by everyone who’d rather talk around it.

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                  No, Trump and Vance and their surrogates are doing generalized racism. You’re just not hearing the blatant dog whistles.

                  And I couldn’t care less what a bunch of assholes in Aurora think about legal immigrants in their community takin’ the jerbs and daring to open Haitian food restaurants. I really couldn’t care less.

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      It really is a scathing indictment of our country that, even if the allegations were true (they aren’t), the proposed solution to the problem Republicans have offered up is to deport all of the people back to their home country rather than just… I dunno. Making sure they have other means of feeding themselves.

      What the fuck has become of our society?

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        What the fuck has become of our society?

        Mass media manipulation, constant class war, a legacy of ultrapatriotism, and crippled education has turned us into a nation of people arrogant in their own ignorance and fed up with how shit the world is today.

        Mass media keeps us all at each other’s throats, stirring up hate and violence for views, and those media owners are almost all old conservative white men who will gladly court fascism for lower taxes.

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      What we perceive as food safety net failures is just another active weapon in the class war.

      Everyone will wring their hands and say ‘What can we do it’s the economy!’ when it is rich people actively trying to erase who they consider as undesirable.

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        They aren’t trying to eliminate the poor. The rich want them desperate enough that they “choose” to become slaves.

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          This is actually incorrect and European nobility showed the template.

          Do you know who served in the houses of the truly powerful? The children of the slightly less powerful. For example, the Groom of the Stool, charged with wiping the king’s ass amongst other toiletry things, was a position hotly contested by noble families of all levels.

          Once they wipe out the poverty class, their servants will be what remains of the middle class, who will be desperate to maintain their lifestyle.

          It isn’t spoken of out loud but among the ultra wealthy, having an all white staff is considered a mark of social status. And once those disenfranchised middle class families bend the knee, their uncertain future is resolved and we have reinvented feudalism.

          It’s where we’re heading.

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      Yeah Vietnamese people ate dogs, cats, rats,etc. But not in the US. In Vietnam, during the war. Only because the war caused food scarcity.

      An old Vietnamese man explained to me they didn’t kill their pets. But if their pet died, they would give it to their neighbours to eat, and their neighbours would do the same if their pet died. Because no matter how hungry they got, they wouldn’t want to eat their own dog.

      Both sad and strangely heartwarming. I wonder if this is where these stories originated from.

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      you could look at it as they aren’t hungry, but like the taste of cat. let’s be honest, Americans don’t know much about other countries, many have never left their own states. so they don’t know if they eat cats there or not.

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        We generally don’t eat animals that eat other animals to avoid collecting pathogens and diseases.

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    There are a billion ways that people are suffering. You can talk about any of them. Inventing new ones doesn’t mean you care. It means the opposite.

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      Especially if your lies are demonizing a group of people who have certainly faced their own struggles.

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      I wonder what it’s like to be a Haitian living in Springfield right now, seeing people relentlessly posting uncritical memes about the former president’s racist lies, while various schools, businesses, and government offices are closed day after day due to threats of violence…

      Can’t log in anymore without seeing weird photoshops of cats and dogs being cooked and eaten. TikTok is covered in people dancing to remixes of Trump’s racist comments. I’m sure this is all helping /s

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    At what point is the libel? Could every Haitian living in the US join a class action to sue vance?

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      I’ve never heard of a class action libel suit before, I don’t think it’s a thing. Seems like libel is saying specific damaging things about a specific individual. But IANAL, I just watch a lot of Legal Eagle.

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        Libel is specifically for written defamation. It would be slander for anything spoken. Although, these dipshits have probably tweeted (or xhitted?) about this as well.

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          Let’s go for it and see what happens.

          Ah, the right wing strategy for the last 7 decades. It’s actually worked really well for them, they just sue for everything and let the courts decide.

          The Haitian community in the Ohio River Valley should absolutely file various lawsuits tying Couchfucker up in court for the next 5 years, it’s the American Way.

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    If I Vote for the Guys Making up Stories to Scare me my life is going to GREATLY IMPROVE!

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    When JD watches Backroom Casting Couch, You think he jerkes off to the couch?