No one even thought to ask about it in the debate.
ITT: people resistant to the idea that what the judicial branch is doing is seriously wrong.
I mean, have you followed what’s been happening in the last two months?
I’ve aged 28 years.
Right, but this is how we slip into authoritarianism. Lose on all fronts over and over and even if we walk away from a battle they’ve gained ground.
Because nobody’s taken advantage of it. It was written for trump. This meme will age like roadkill.
Oh, good. I’m sure that we’ll never have another corrupt president, so there’s absolutely no need to worry!
I have no idea what that even means. The entire point is that it’s written for a corrupt president, one will take advantage of it, and we’re supposed to worry.
I don’t care how the meme ages. If people get to see the consequences they’re the ones who should have gave a shit.
As a European: I give a shit, but that tanker of a shitshow is barreling down like there’s no tomorrow.
We have a whole “anti-woke” culture. These people are actually against being aware of social injustice. It’s like when they were up in arms against anti-fasicts. Hmmmmm, who would take issue with an anti-fascist movement.
Chuck Schumer introduced the ‘no kings act’ which, if passed into law, would:
- Reaffirm that president’s and vice president’s do not have immunity for actions that violate U.S. criminal law
- Remove the supreme court’s appellate jurisdiction for all actions challenging the constitutionality of this legislation (referring to the no kings act I believe)
- Establish additional jurisdiction and procedural guardrails. Allowing the United States to bring criminal action against a President or Vice President in any applicable district Court.
I think this is a good stop gap and I will be emailing my senators and representative to support this bill
They need the house and the senate for a start. Trump and Kamala are neck and neck and the stars are aligned for a GOP win. We are pushing uphill and everyone’s sitting on their laurels hoping it sorts itself out.
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You only say that because you’re in another country and the feds don’t have jurisdiction. Wish they did. I’d like to see them haul you off.
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Like in a war with Ukraine?
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I care. As far as I’m concerned, we’ve already entered fascism with that decision. We have no way of knowing that ONLY Donald Trump would abuse that power.
Oh no no we care. We are now absolutely scared to fucking death the Trump will make it back in.
Before his first election we thought how bad could he be.
Then he was pretty bad. And then the next time around we went, he could be this bad. But he lost and that was good.
And now here we are again only the saying how bad can he be as a whole new context.
Harris specifically mentioned it in the debate. but you can’t talk about it when you have two minutes to answer anything. also what is there for them to debate about? he would have deny it’s what he wants, deny he would abuse it, and that’s that.
Hopefully Harris will clean the shit from the court not too long after she gets in
That’s a giant hope. Harris/Biden know they don’t have the means to undo this. It’s going to come down to the people giving them the means. Where we are now, when everyone can be so easily polarized by the range of 100,000 different things they are upset about won’t allow it.
We have to go back to basics here.
Starting with We the people. No we don’t have to reinvent it but to start evaluating it, as a nation, we will make those who hide behind it terrified enough to make changes.
It’s a scary proposition. To allow this elclectorate shape our future. At the end of the day they will one way or another. I might be in the last generation that can ride the status quo into the sunset. I dont want that for those that come after. I say give the wheel early. Let them steer us to the future they want.
That’s going to require a majority in both houses at the least.
Spoiler: they won’t
He’s announced he’s suing the justice department for $100 million in punitive damages over the Mar-a-Lago raid. Punitive damages are explicitly impossible to sue the federal government over.
But if he’s elected, he’ll be able to tell the justice department to pay up as part of his official duties anyway.
“punitive” as in punishing? That sounds like the US treasury will be receiving 100.000.000 then, since an individual shouldn’t be the recipient of any “you fucked up, now pay the fine” in any scenario.
Fines explicitly not being caused damages, solely fines.
The thing that really gives me anxiety is thta no one has been talking about reinstating Chevron deference…
As someone who works in the saftey field. It’s nightmarish. A court telling a refinery they don’t have to do maintenence? Like that would neveeerrr happen.
Can you explain like I’m five that?
That’s the way it’s been for a while now. There’s so many crises that we just run to the new one every few days, forgetting about the old one and never actually resolving any of them. Considering how complaisant the burnout makes us, I’d imagine it’s not entirely happenstance that things are so hectic.
It’s like people trying to down play Jan 6th. I said it was coming. You said it was coming. We all said it was coming. “Oh, but that’s not really a threat. A threat is when people are losing their lives to an authoritarian government.” It’s coming.
“Look at the economy! What we can surmise is that concentration camps are good for my pocket book!”
No one cares because no one really doubted that the immunity for official acts was going to be a thing.
The sneaky part that is problematic was making official communication channels inadmissible even for non official acts. That part is what buried the jan 6th trial for Trump, because it relied on communications through official channels as evidence.
Why fucking doubt it??? They are trying to install an authoritarian. It’s obvious by now!
Seems to me this is a common theme everywhere. Something big happens and incites a massive reaction, even offline and then it dies down as quickly as it sparked up. Politics are a show like everything else, serious issues like this one overshadowed by more trending events such as the debate.
In the end, no one does anything effective and even if they do, it isn’t massive or lasting enough to pressure any politician for real and they get to do whatever they want.
They want to ask about policy positions, which immunity is not.
Jesus fucking Christ. That was only two months ago? Fuck you, Time, can you just be consistent for like even a second?
Kamala did bring it up in the debate. And that was about it.
