There has been a lot of coverage about how state Republican organizations have been taken over by MAGA. The result has been incompetence, mismanagement, and an alienation from the “elites” who we used to call the “donor class”.
I’m too old to be optimistic, but Trump sure looks like the leader of a loosing campaign.
They’re giving up the ground campaign because they don’t need people’s votes. They’re going to try to cheat and BS their way into a win just like in 2000. Just look at Georgia for instance.
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I think they’re complacent because the main plan is to simply not certify. And they have Mike in the house to make that happen.
Mike isn’t in charge of it though. If they’re depending on him then they’re sorely mistaken.
Does door knocking work? I don’t answer the door anymore, haven’t for a while. I check the cameras. If I don’t recognize someone or their uniform I don’t get up.
Same with picking up the phone. Leave a message and I’ll call back, if it’s relevant. Don’t leave a message and there’s no callback.
And I’m skeptical of text surveys, what new scam could be contained within?
Who is doing participating in these polls? Is this all boomer data? Or are they just pulling numbers out of air for headlines?
I’ve gone door knocking both for campaigns and other non-political canvases and most people don’t have cameras. Heck, many people don’t even have doorbells, it literally is knocking on the door.
Most people will answer the door if they are home, most won’t want to talk. You just move onto the next, it’s about being visible and talking to those that are willing to do so.
It can work yeah. From experience it’s usually more catching people out and about while you have the pamphlet bag and they get curious. Otherwise you’re just leaving pamphlets in doors. Calling people seems to be worse in my experience. If you catch someone outside there’s a good chance you aren’t interrupting with a short conversation. Whereas phone canvassing has gotten worse and worse about that somehow. Maybe it’s just something psychological. Some of my best results were being in the same area twice, (to finish pamphletting doors), and someone who couldn’t talk the day before can talk the next day and they give you time because you didn’t chase them like a salesperson.
So much scamming via phone. You in person is verifiable, so that makes sense.
Yes, it does.
I’m there with you.
We have a camera on the driveway and the front walk. We have a sign at the start of the front walk that, in compliance with state/federal law requirements, says no politics (among others). Anybody who makes it to the door gets yelled at for not reading the sign and asked for their permit from the city to go door to door.
We really don’t like people, outside of expected visitors/deliveries, coming to our door. Our dogs lose their minds barking and then are on high alert for a while going off at every little noise.
Political texts, regardless of party or content, get an automatic delete and mark junk. Same with emails.
Mailers don’t make it into the house and go right into the recycling.
We don’t vote based on the best marketing campaign.
We really don’t like people, outside of expected visitors/deliveries, coming to our door. Our dogs lose their minds barking and then are on high alert for a while going off at every little noise.
Your dogs take their emotional cues from you. You lose your mind when someone comes to your door unexpectedly, said so yourself.
Firstly, nobody comes to our door “unexpectedly”. We’re alerted and have them on camera before they hit our front walk.
Secondly, our dogs lose their minds barking when my wife comes home from work, when we have expected company, when we come back from running errands, when our neighbor comes home from work and slams his car door etc. etc. etc.
It’s almost like they both have high amounts of guard dog breeds in them.
Secondly, our dogs lose their minds barking when my wife comes home from work
What do you do when she comes home? What does she do when she comes in the door as far as greeting you and the dog?
when we have expected company
How do you greet your company? What do you do with the dog from the moment the bell rings?
Practice with expected company. You and your family stay seated in the room and ask a friend knock on the door.say, “come in its open.” Stay seated, let your friend come in and take a seat. Everyone ignore the dog. If the dog is not calm throughout after one or two tries at this, I will eat my hat.
when we come back from running errands,
When you get home from errands, what is your dog’s experience? Is it a bunch of excitement and greetings? Lots of attention for the dog? Immediate play, petting, or food? Do you start arguing when you get in the door?
when our neighbor comes home from work and slams his car door etc. etc. etc.
Do you watch the neighbor come home and gripe about the loud noises? When you hear a loud noise outside, do you run to the window? Go outside to see what it is? Talk about it? Pay attention to it?
Regardless of breed, your dogs are going to pay attention to what you pay attention to, and their emotions are going to mimic their human’s, with very little exception. If you hear noise and then look out the window, obviously your dog is going to get excited about that noise and want to look for it, too.
Well damn! You’re 0/2!!! Look at you go!
Maybe, just maybe, two comments on Lemmy, one not even directly about our dogs, isn’t enough for your armchair analysis.
Don’t worry, I don’t expect you to actually eat your hat, though that was a foolish thing to say.
I doubt it. Annoying dogs have annoying owners. My dogs have all been chill af.
Your dogs might be chill but I bet all the other dogs find their unsolicited advice and wildly off base assumptions annoying.
Using your logic they’re also probably pretty thin skinned when called out on it.
Or they have chihuahuas.
You must not be familiar with Shepherd breeds.
Dogs are dogs. I’m familiar with many dogs. I’m familiar with many dogs that are Shepherd breeds that don’t flip out when someone rings the door bell. The dog only knows about doorbells because of how humans react to it. If you react calmly, and sit down for a second, and then walk to the door calmly and open it calmly, and you don’t do loud sing-song greetings with everybody making a bunch of noise, if you’re not trying to restrain the dog or block the dog from running out the door, or panicking that someone is there, then the dog will be calm too. It’s not rocket science.
Get involved with volunteering around you to ensure they can’t catch up to dem’s ground game
It’s a concept of a ground game.
I too would be embarrassed to approach strangers and tell them I support a rapist felon for president.
Come on, it was his wife. And the other time… and the time it was a kid…
didnt the orange turd gut the gop accounts while also firing or replacing all the regional/sr management?
i always thought that was them giving up on ‘the ground game’
He also charges his own party to use his name. It’s one big grift
It has become my opinion that Dems are patting themselves on the back and relishing in the failing, uninspiredl campaigning of Trumo lately. My thing is, if they aren’t putting their energy into debating, and campaigning, and generally trying to win the election traditionally, where is all this energy and money going? I bet good money that the campaign is not their number one priority at all, and they are instead putting everything they have into their impending coup. Bribes, deals, well positioned traitors, etc.
Well sure, but mostly they’re stealing the money
Would you go door-knocking there? That’s a certain way to get shot at.
Nah, they’re all white, they’ll be fine.
Note about door knocking: you don’t usually go to random houses. You go to houses likely to have undecideds or people who agree with you but have historically iffy turnout
last time i went canvassing i ran away from a door when saw the person inside going for their shotgun
Door knocking, you’re going to houses that have a history with your party. You’re not just going up to random people’s doors.
Yeah they dont care cause they’re just going to throw the election certification and start a civil war if that doesnt work.
Yes, great, but that’s not a sign for any Democrat to relax, at least not until November.
Still, I am imagining GOP campaign volunteers being like:
“Do you have a minute to talk about how your immigrant neighbours are eating the dogs, eating the cats, eating the pets of the people that live there?”
I’m not really going to relax until December 17th. That’s when the electoral college meets to vote.
I’m honestly not relaxing until the next not Republican is sitting in the oval office. Too much fuckery a foot. Hopefully this fuckery cools down once Trump inevitably passes due to his terrible self-care and/or cognitive decline
I’m surprised by this bit:
Part of the reason for the campaign’s move was the result of an FEC ruling this year that a candidate’s campaign and outside groups could coordinate their canvassing efforts with super PACs, and specifically share voter lists and data that they collect door to door. It means campaigns could share much of their labor- and cost-heavy ground efforts with groups that can take unlimited donations.
I thought the PACs need to be independant of the campaign and that’s how they don’t fall under campaign finance laws? Why would they suddenly be allowed to coordinate so closely?
Hopefully they aint that stupid around here
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