• Shizrak@sh.itjust.works
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    1 day ago

    Sure. Whenever discussing religion one will fall into circular reasoning, because faith itself is circular reasoning. One cannot use logic or reason to get out of a position that logic and reason did not get them into.

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      1 day ago

      How is faith circular reasoning?

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        And forgive me for my use of “impossible” earlier, that’s not my position.

        “Highly improbable” is a way better qualifier.

        Not going to edit it because it ruins the context.

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          Well, it is highly improbable, because only a few people have, either by this aforementioned person or himself. And it requires supernatural powers.

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            Right, and it’s much more likely that some true stories about a great dude got exaggerated a little bit over 2000 years, and vanishingly less likely that magic is real.

            But both are absolutely possible.

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              24 hours ago

              The Jesus we believe in was written about 2000 years ago. Our beliefs haven’t changed.

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          Then our belief in anything can be put to circular reasoning

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            1 day ago

            Not exactly. Some things can be proven. But regarding things that happened thousands of years ago? Yeah that’s just everyone’s best guess and personal beliefs.

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              24 hours ago

              We can’t prove that anne frank existed though. Those videos of her could have been an actress. The story could have been an elaborate rouse. Etc, etc

              You believe that anne frank existed because you believe that she existed, etc, etc

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                20 hours ago

                Odd example but correct, we cannot know with absolute certainty. But her story doesn’t feature magic, so it’s much easier to believe.