• plinky [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    2 months ago

    Literally the only concrete thing russia wants is no nato membership, i feel like im in groundhog day.

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      2 months ago

      Libs seem very unconditional-surrender-brained about this conflict. Even concept of considering Russian desires in a potential peace settlement makes them so fucking angry.

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        Eventually, once there are no more avenues left to help Ukraine without triggering nuclear war or losing thousands of NATO soldiers, they will simply pretend to have won the war, and pull all remaining support.

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        2 months ago

        very unconditional-surrender-brained about this conflict

        Considering the only actual usage of nuclear weapons so far was for that exact reason, it’s not looking good.

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          We all hope that is the case, but Liberals keep coming up with new and exiciting ways to deny reality. See for instance also the Finnish campaign to paint themselves as the winners of the Winter War and the deliberate exclusion of anything regarding the Continuation war.

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      Russia was loudly saying this in December 2021 (and for decades prior) but the US pretended it was about fReEdOm of association