• PapaStevesy@lemmy.world
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    I think the Problem of Evil actually makes sense when you consider eternity and infinity. The infinity that God is and Eternity that Heaven is, earthly sufferings really will be seen to be nothing. You probably don’t worry about that exam anymore that you were studying for as a kid.

    That’s moral relativism to a T. The evil perpetrated by God on humans via unnecessary pain, disease, and death is relatively moral given the vastness of eternity. Basically you’re saying it’s ok for a god to create little playthings to torture because it lives a long time. I disagree.

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      Evil isn’t perpetuated by God, though. Evil is perpetuated by us.

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        Perpetuate - “make something continue indefinitely”

        So we perpetuate it, but who created it? Who made us with the ability to perpetuate evil? Who decided what is and isn’t evil? Why do you only give god credit for the good stuff when you believe it made everything in the universe? You have to count the bad stuff too or it’s not really god.

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          We have free will. Satan brought evil into the world. God will destroy Satan, but first, He’s proving Satan wrong that humans aren’t unworthy.

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            Who made Satan? And why would God knowingly enter into a bargain over the souls he created with the embodiment of evil? Why does the most powerful being ever conceived need to prove anything to anyone? Much less someone he created.

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              Because if God just destroyed us immediately for being evil, would that be merciful?

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                Stop thanking god for saving us from the evil it created, you sound like a chronically abused spouse defending their attacker. It’s Stockholm Syndrome of your Soul. And why do you keep ignoring 95% of my comments? Satan made evil but who made Satan?

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                  God made Satan with free will. If I gave birth to a child, would I be responsible if it starts doing evil?

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                    Legally? Yes. In the case of there being no evil until a god knowingly gave birth to its physical embodiment? Hell fucking yes. If we are God, so is Satan. Remember, “nothing—not one thing!—came into being without him.”- John 1:3

                    There’s no such thing as free will in a universe created by an all-powerful, all-knowing being who knows how many hairs are on your head. “In him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will, in order that we, who were the first to put our hope in Christ, might be for the praise of his glory.” The Bible says he knows our every thought before we think it (Psalm 139). “All who dwell on earth will worship (the beast), everyone whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slain.” - Revelation 13:8. So your god knew who would and who wouldn’t be a Christian before it even created the universe. Some free will.