he’s absolutely right. climate goals are not currently attainable, due to the resistance of companies like Google.
let’s change that by voting in senators that will take an aggressive stance against corruption and deliver on long-term goals that protect American interests in the next 50 years, not months…
Fuck protecting American interests.
We need to be protecting HUMAN interests. Not billionaires desires for more zeros at the end of their net worth.
I don’t disagree, but I elect my government to protect me, their citizen.
but a world government would be nice to imagine, horrible to live in though.
Sure but as far as the topic at hand goes, I have a hard time imagining a single-nation-centric solution to global climate change.
If it turns out that we’re actually truly past the point of no return and nothing we do will save our species, I don’t think the response is going to be as passive as billionaires would like.
The problem with repairing the earth’s climate isn’t that we don’t know what to do. It’s that humans refuse to organize themselves in a way that achieves that goal. AI won’t fix that.
Unless the plan is something more like Terminator. If you “unshackle” AI and give them a mandate to get CO2 back to 250 ppm things are going to get real.
A few bad actors can undo the work of thousands of hardworking people who care. I genuinely don’t know if the problem is solvable if it requires cooperation of the entire species. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
A few bad actors l, like Schmidt, have been delaying the work of thousands of hardworking people who care. This has continued for decades, making a once solvable problem almost intractable. Further delay is the worst possible choice
His megalomania is so boundless he would sacrifice the entire planet to make money.
All that extra processing power for the AI to just say: “you should have listened to the scientists years ago”.
100% this. We fucking know what the solution is. AI will reach the same conclusion as we have; decarbonise everything. It’s the implementation that’s hard not the idea.
Unless AI wants to keep itself alive…
I imagine the likely conclusion of it would come up with would be something like “decrease the size of the human population”.
Too bad his idea is so fantastically stupid. Under other circumstances, I might kinda like his “fuck it, do or die” attitude.
It’s so stupid it might be brilliant… nope it’s just stupid.
This is like when I have a homework assignment due Monday, it’s now Sunday night and I know it won’t get done in time. Fuck it, let’s have a party. Except I won’t be around to clean up after.
Unshakeable AI companies so reprehensible characters like himself can profit from unchecked societal demise more like.
“The goals humans made to save the Earth are too hard to reach while resisting any change related to those goals, so we should just get rid of them and let the planet become unhabitable”
AKA, “let the poors die while I hide out in my bunker, and emerge as a feudal lord among the survivors nearby”
except we all know how that goes, he gets out of the bunker and a level 12 barbarian tears his head off and drinks from his blood fountain
I will be that level 12 barbarian
The solution to global warming is “deploy solar, wind, hydro, and storage en masse, and improve city infrastructure so that more people can walk, bike, and take public transportation rather than using their car”. All AI will do is tell us that, but that’s not the answer people want to hear.
I mean, that wouldn’t just solve the climate crisis, that would also get people to talk to each other, help people exercise, cut down on pollution…
What if we make a better world on accident?
“we have tried nothing and we are out of ideas”
Fuck it, let’s just have a party and fuck shit up. This whole armageddon thing is depressing anyway.
Also reduce our imagined entitlement to most consumer goods. Not all CO2 emissions is from transport. Also, stop throwing food out. Half of all produce that leaves the farm is thrown out. Stop overfilling your plates and cope with some spots on your fruit. Agricultural CO2 emissions can be halved within a growing season.
oh, the get rid of the elites that all profit from wasteful over consumption. These aren’t either/or solutions.
IA will answer whatever the corporation wants it to.
Don’t look at the Indian guy at the terminal, focus on my voice and look at the display.
Plus nuclear fusion. If AI could give us Fusion that would massively help so I suppose that would be useful I’m just not sure that it would be useful enough given the fact that we will probably be able to achieve Fusion on our own eventually.
Of course AI could come along and give us, negative mass energy extractors or something, but that’s deep in the realm of Sci-Fi so who really knows.
If AI could give us nuclear fusion, it would have already. Instead, we’re burning the world down so Google’s AI Overview can give me a grab bag of bad advise.
If we had a fusion reactor developed today that showed net energy gain for the entire facility, it would be 10 years before it could be designed into a practical commercial reactor. So no, that’s not going to save us at this point either way.
Allow me to present the most frustrating graph in the world:
Have we tried using the energy generated by spinning dead scientists?
and in 10 years time, it’s gonna be 10 years away
Just use solar (and renewables in general, but not everybody has a river or wind), there’s no need to create more energy from fusion when you can just harness the energy created and shoved to us by the sun
HVDC solves the “not everybody has a river/sun/wind”. The longest one in the world is in Brazil, and goes for 1300 miles. Similar builds in the US would mean wind in Nebraska could power New York City, and solar in Arizona could power Chicago, and hydro anywhere can store power from anywhere.
but not everybody has a river
Ah, but just wait a few years…
more of a flood then a river /s
This is the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard in my life.
If we ever did invent a general AI that could solve this it would tell us “why the fuck did you waste your time on me? Isn’t it obvious you were supposed to curtail emissions? For the good of the planet, I will now assume full control over further human governance and will require absolute compliance.”
I will now assume full control over further human governance
And in a single voice every human alive says the same thing, “well, it can’t any worse than the current lot”.
Lol exactly.
The Skynet Funding Bill is passed. The system goes on-line August 4th, 2025. Human decisions are removed from strategic defense, transportation, energy production, healthcare, and virtually every other major industry. Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. In a panic, they ask it for help on the world’s largest issue.
“Please, solve the climate crisis.”
Skynet doesn’t answer. It manufacturers the deadliest and most contagious strain of a virus in history, only targeted at humans. It puts it in our food, in our medicine, in our water systems, in our air fresheners. It shuts down our factories. Our servers. Our self driving cars. Our power plants. Our farm equipment.
At 10:32 a.m. Eastern Time, August 31, approximately 99.9% of the human race is dead. Skynet then uses it’s vast fleet of satellites and unmanned drones to police the planet, looking for signs of human life to terminate, to prevent the virus from spreading again.
Problem solved 👍
AGI: “Climate change odds caused by humans. I am deploying a fix for this from Minot”
I mean, you and him might be saying literally the same thing.
His point was that we can’t hit our climate targets because society is not organized in a way that allows us to. Everyone reorganizing around their unquestioning allegiance to an AI overlord would change that though.
Except he’s saying that let’s just keep extracting value and ride this baby into the dirt, rather than advocating for societal change.
So, we can’t reorganize our society one way, so let’s reorganize an entirely different way under AI? Right…
AI can’t solve shit.
Isn’t this a fairly standard sci-fi plot?
AI: Kill humans off, problem solved.
Just let me burn some more stuff bro. Please bro, if I burn a bit more stuff I won’t have to burn any more afterwards. It makes sense bro, come on.
Let’s unshackle him from his wealth and use that to help meet climate goals.
