• rockSlayer@lemmy.world
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    29 days ago

    Not the same person, but I carry similar sentiments. I helped form the second largest tech union in North America. What are you doing to support the working working class and build alternatives to capital? Tossing support at the nearest person in fear doesn’t prevent fascism.

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      29 days ago

      To use your example, here are the options:

      • today we can definitely get a Union that covers some tech workers but not all of them.

      Or

      • today we can try to get a Union for all tech workers, but it’s a long shot. And if we lose, the consequences are that we don’t get another union vote for 4 years and during that time, the tech companies get to run rampant with negative propaganda about unions, making the challenge even harder next time.

      Which would you choose, second largest tech union guy?

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        29 days ago

        False dichotomy. The stakes of the second version are the same for the first regardless of union size. There never has been and never will be a guaranteed union campaign until we overthrow capitalism.

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      29 days ago

      Voting against the fascist candidate abso-fucking-lutely prevents fascism. This is an extremely simple concept that one would imagine the founder of the second-largest tech union in North America should be able to wrap their mind around.

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        I think my point has been missed. The fact that there’s an openly fascist candidate running for president means that fascism is already here and in power.

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          They’re not in power. But you’re helping them get back in power. If people like you decided to get behind the non-fascist, it would be a non-issue, hence the post.

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            29 days ago

            I can name some of them. You probably recognize them.

            • Mike Johnson
            • Marjorie Greene
            • Mitch McConnell
            • Jacob Frey
            • Leonard Leo

            Nowhere did I say I wasn’t voting. Voting is the least effective method of change that exists, but it’s still a method. I will still be participating because it can lead to minor changes. If you think that defeating fascism can be done by voting once every 4 years however, you will be played.

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              I’m glad that you participate. Voting is the easiest and most direct method of change.

              And yeah, it can be defeated by voting (every 2 years, for primaries too) if you have enough people to join. It’s unfortunate that there are enough cynics who don’t participate who could make real change if they did.

              Every time Trump’s judges make another radical ruling, I’m reminded that people stayed home. And now pregnant women aren’t safe in red states, just as one example.

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                29 days ago

                it can be defeated by voting

                It never has been. Even in France with the left coalition, Macron has been courting the fascist right.