• simple@lemmy.world
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      Beehaw’s degeneration is actually temporary. They said they would like to refederate with major instances when there’s better mod tools available. The problem is they’re only 4 admins and don’t really have the capability to moderate that well right now.

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        yeah, that’s what i’ve read. They’re protecting their people, and that’s an admirable thing. Wonder where cross instances admin tools are on the roadmap.

        In any case our equivalent federated communities are coming up to strength now and we’re starting to get decent levels of interactions without them.

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        they’re only 4 admins and don’t really have the capability to moderate that well right now

        We know, they continually remind us.

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          In your entire comment history, this is actually the least hostile comment you’ve ever made. Amazing

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          Yes, that is good communication. Most people only look at the latest thing. By repeating themselves, the message is the latest thing multiple times, meaning more people see it. Repetition is not a bad thing in mass communications. They’re doing a good job

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            I don’t care what kind of job they’re doing, I’m not a beehaw user. I find their tone and attitude irritating. If there is a way to filter all beehaw content from my feed, I would love to know what it is.

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              Go find an instance that’s not federated with beehaw. I’m sure you’ll find the pleasant people you’re looking for

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          As others have mentioned their mod team is pretty small. In addition their motivation is to cultivate a safe space which is hard to do when other more permissive instances are federated with them.

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            'Tis the reason why they should not consider refederating. Having their own sets of accounts and some strict and underwhelmed modding is sufficient for their purpose of cultivating their safe space. Maybe others won’t agree with their methods, but their purpose demands these methods in their space

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          They want a safe space for their particular values, so defederated with every instance which doesn’t.

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            I’ve read every scrap of documentation on their website, and still don’t have a good sense what exactly their “values” are. In one sentence they sound more woke than Reddit, in the next sentence they sound like they’re pushing back on overwrought codes of conduct.

            Honestly, Beehaw just comes across as one quirky individual’s vanity project, created out of spite after he got modded on another board, and it somehow stumbled into drawing a crowd.

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              I tend to err on the side of caution. Their stated goal is more moderation, and I’ll take that at face value. They left Reddit where people are banned from dozens of subreddits for any and no reason at all, and thought, “you know what we need? Even more moderation!”

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            Beehaw is still federated with most servers, they’re not isolated. There are a few that are defederated from for differences like allowing hate speech, but the two big ones were to ease up the moderation demands as they had open sign ups without captcha from what I recall. They were the source of a lot of spam and making moderation a headache. The admins plan to revisit the issue if better mod tools are developed, it’s still a young platform and better tools could make it easier to moderate without cutting off whole servers.

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              If it’s a moderation thing, how is lemmy.world dealing with it? LW has a significantly larger user base.

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        I don’t get why they don’t appoint a ton of community moderators. Lemmy allows admins to appoint community mods, and parent mods can create child mods that they control.

        Is there some sort of specific feature they need that is currently missing? If so, what?

        Or do the admins just not want to delegate / relinquish power to others in the community?

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      Beehaw did the opposite. If you are from reddit, you are not the pink people. You are the grey ones. Beehaw said no before the fourth panel happened.

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        Hey! There’s no way for an individual to defederate without running their own instance. I think my first comment was asking how I could remove beehaw

        There are multiple types of people coming from Reddit. I’m here looking for more critical discussion. Beehaw gives me cult vibes.

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          And I think you are the kind of person they defederated from so everything works for everyone.

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        I mean, 1/3 of all of my google searches for a give topic come from a reddit post. There were as useful as stack exchange for most technical questions.

        The management and problems are nothing but the millions of curated answered questions are pretty damn useful.