No, it doesn’t.
Not anymore, but their original charter cites the verse. That spirit obviously lives on in the modern militant movement, because they’ve been killing civilians even after the apparent “reforms.”
Unless you’re able to provide a level of oppression, ethnic cleansing, systemic genocide, mass displacement, and regular human abuse and rights violations similar to what I showed Israel does, this argument of yours is useless.
The reason these haven’t happened at the same scale is because Israel is quite capable of fighting off its attackers. If Hamas and Hezbollah had the same military quality that Israel has, Israel wouldn’t exist today.
I’m not going to justify civilian deaths and atrocities.
But also according to you:
Palestinians have every right to hate Israelis. And Israelis have no right to cry about it.
Tell you what. Here’s a few more pieces showing Hamas hiding behind the veil of civilian garb and infrastructure: One; Two; Three; Four. It’s obviously been a part of their strategy. Do you think it’s changed? If so, why?
The very link you provided said that a later investigation confirmed it wasn’t rockets. Oh, and the school was vacant.
The article states:
As soon as the rockets were discovered, UNRWA staff were withdrawn from the premises. … the Board concluded that it was highly likely that a Palestinian armed group might have used the premises to hide weapons but was unable to confirm with certainty what type of weapon might have been hidden at the school.
So it wasn’t rockets specifically, but still weapons. And the building was vacant because it was evacuated. Why are you getting caught up on semantics like this but missing other major details in the same article?
Your source is the IDF.
Actually, the quote I mentioned with that link to The Guardian references Al-Aqsa TV, which is run by Hamas. Based on his author page, Peter Beaumont is not a paid shill of the IDF. Or again, is it only hostile propaganda when it argues against Hamas’s indiscriminate killings?
That’s not an excuse for the blockade and deliberately starving an entire population, we wouldn’t accept it anywhere else.
According to the Palestinian Authority, aid is being stolen by Hamas and sold to civilians at very high prices. Given that the article describes them congratulating Hamas on the October 7th attack, I don’t think they’re being paid off by Israel when they say this. Either way, Hamas’s theft of aid is contributing to the ongoing conditions there.
Yes, and they also have a long history of issuing evacuation orders and then bombing the place within minutes, bombing refugee camps and so called “safe zones”, attacking civilians fleeing, and more.
Would it be better if they didn’t order an evacuation at all? That would get a lot more Palestinians killed, and would result in an even more severe genocide. Or would you rather they enter into urban combat against a foe that hides behind civilians and stores weapons in civilian buildings? Or should they simply lie down and accept Hamas shooting up their citizens and firing off indiscriminate rockets into their territory?
Palestinians have every right to hate Israelis. And Israelis have no right to cry about it.
This line along with the whole “October 7th isn’t as bad as you seem to think” thing has big “it didn’t happen but they deserved it” vibes.
A charter that was rewritten 8 years ago to clarify its position. The old one is no longer relevant.
because they’ve been killing civilians even after the apparent “reforms.”
They didn’t kill them because they were Jews. It was because they were Israelis.
The reason these haven’t happened on the same scale is because Israel is quite capable of fighting off its attackers. If Hamas and Hezbollah had the same military quality that Israel has, Israel wouldn’t exist today.
Hezbolllah is more than capable of hitting Israeli targets. They’ve been pounding Haifa and even almost assassinated Netanyahu as well. There are nearly daily announcements of casualties they’ve inflicted on Israeli troops. And yeah, Hamas is attacking Israelis. Look at what Israelis do to Palestinians daily.
Which is it?
My opinion can be of both. A lot of the world thinks this way. It essential boils down to saying to Israel “Yes it was tragic, but what did you expect was going to happen?”.
Do you prefer this source
Nowhere in the article does it mention holding civilians by force. They just say Hamas said not to leave. The article even mentioned that they have nowhere to go even if they did want to. And guess who’s fault is that? Hint, it’s not Hamas.
And yes, Hamas is going to be among civilians. They are Palestinians, and they are in one of the most densely populated areas by the force of Israel in what people have called the “largest open air prison.”
Why are you getting caught up on semantics like this but missing other major details in the same article?
Because you’re using it to justify genocide. The article didn’t say evacuated. It said vacant. Also, see my comment on civilians in the paragraph above.
Would it be better if they didn’t order an evacuation at all? That would get a lot more Palestinians killed and would result in an even more severe genocide. Or would you rather they enter into urban combat against a foe that hides behind civilians and stores weapons in civilian buildings? Or should they simply lie down and accept Hamas shooting up their citizens and firing off indiscriminate rockets into their territory?
How about they not intentionally attack civilians? Civilians stay they die, they flee they die, they go pray they die, they go to school they die, they go to a hospital they die, they report on things they die, people do humanitarian work they die. Why is it too much to ask that Israel stop intentionally targeting civilians? They just carpet bomb entire areas in buildings on a whim. This is not something we accept from any nation. Why on earth are we accepting it here? And don’t get me that bullshit excuse that they have to because of Hamas. They’ve made it abundantly clear that they don’t care about civilian deaths. Israel’s evil is not a reflection on Hamas.
This line along with the whole “October 7th isn’t as bad as you seem to think” thing has big “it didn’t happen but they deserved it” vibes.
I explained what was debunked and what wasn’t. Stop bringing this shit up.
Honest question, we’ve been going back and forth here, and I still don’t get your point here, and I’m getting tired of your constant back and forth over minute points. Is your point that Hamas is bad? Sure, no one said they were good. Is it that Israel is justified in its actions? Absolutely not, and anyone who says otherwise is a disgusting immoral individual. That Israel’s won’t be safe if they make concessions and allow Palestinians to live freely? Well, that’s kind of Israel’s fault, so tough shit. I’m honestly not feeling talking with you anymore given how much bullshit of yours I had to debunk. And you clearly feel that brown lives matter less than white lives, so goodbye, and I hope you change your outlook. Because it’s a oretty evil one.
The reason these haven’t happened at the same scale is because Israel is quite capable of fighting off its attackers. If Hamas and Hezbollah had the same military quality that Israel has, Israel wouldn’t exist today.
But also according to you:
Which is it?
Do you prefer this source written by Michael Georgy, an Egyptian correspondent? Egypt is no friend of America. Also, is this American propaganda? Or is it only American propaganda when it says something you don’t like?
Tell you what. Here’s a few more pieces showing Hamas hiding behind the veil of civilian garb and infrastructure: One; Two; Three; Four. It’s obviously been a part of their strategy. Do you think it’s changed? If so, why?
The article states:
So it wasn’t rockets specifically, but still weapons. And the building was vacant because it was evacuated. Why are you getting caught up on semantics like this but missing other major details in the same article?
Actually, the quote I mentioned with that link to The Guardian references Al-Aqsa TV, which is run by Hamas. Based on his author page, Peter Beaumont is not a paid shill of the IDF. Or again, is it only hostile propaganda when it argues against Hamas’s indiscriminate killings?
According to the Palestinian Authority, aid is being stolen by Hamas and sold to civilians at very high prices. Given that the article describes them congratulating Hamas on the October 7th attack, I don’t think they’re being paid off by Israel when they say this. Either way, Hamas’s theft of aid is contributing to the ongoing conditions there.
Would it be better if they didn’t order an evacuation at all? That would get a lot more Palestinians killed, and would result in an even more severe genocide. Or would you rather they enter into urban combat against a foe that hides behind civilians and stores weapons in civilian buildings? Or should they simply lie down and accept Hamas shooting up their citizens and firing off indiscriminate rockets into their territory?
This line along with the whole “October 7th isn’t as bad as you seem to think” thing has big “it didn’t happen but they deserved it” vibes.
A charter that was rewritten 8 years ago to clarify its position. The old one is no longer relevant.
They didn’t kill them because they were Jews. It was because they were Israelis.
Hezbolllah is more than capable of hitting Israeli targets. They’ve been pounding Haifa and even almost assassinated Netanyahu as well. There are nearly daily announcements of casualties they’ve inflicted on Israeli troops. And yeah, Hamas is attacking Israelis. Look at what Israelis do to Palestinians daily.
My opinion can be of both. A lot of the world thinks this way. It essential boils down to saying to Israel “Yes it was tragic, but what did you expect was going to happen?”.
Nowhere in the article does it mention holding civilians by force. They just say Hamas said not to leave. The article even mentioned that they have nowhere to go even if they did want to. And guess who’s fault is that? Hint, it’s not Hamas.
And yes, Hamas is going to be among civilians. They are Palestinians, and they are in one of the most densely populated areas by the force of Israel in what people have called the “largest open air prison.”
Because you’re using it to justify genocide. The article didn’t say evacuated. It said vacant. Also, see my comment on civilians in the paragraph above.
How about they not intentionally attack civilians? Civilians stay they die, they flee they die, they go pray they die, they go to school they die, they go to a hospital they die, they report on things they die, people do humanitarian work they die. Why is it too much to ask that Israel stop intentionally targeting civilians? They just carpet bomb entire areas in buildings on a whim. This is not something we accept from any nation. Why on earth are we accepting it here? And don’t get me that bullshit excuse that they have to because of Hamas. They’ve made it abundantly clear that they don’t care about civilian deaths. Israel’s evil is not a reflection on Hamas.
I explained what was debunked and what wasn’t. Stop bringing this shit up.
Honest question, we’ve been going back and forth here, and I still don’t get your point here, and I’m getting tired of your constant back and forth over minute points. Is your point that Hamas is bad? Sure, no one said they were good. Is it that Israel is justified in its actions? Absolutely not, and anyone who says otherwise is a disgusting immoral individual. That Israel’s won’t be safe if they make concessions and allow Palestinians to live freely? Well, that’s kind of Israel’s fault, so tough shit. I’m honestly not feeling talking with you anymore given how much bullshit of yours I had to debunk. And you clearly feel that brown lives matter less than white lives, so goodbye, and I hope you change your outlook. Because it’s a oretty evil one.