• KoboldCoterie@pawb.social
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    20 hours ago

    we are no longer a 2 party nation

    We’re a two-party nation as long as first past the post voting is the standard. If you want the green party to be taken seriously, that should me what you’re campaigning for, not a third candidate in an inherently two-party system.

    I can throw away my vote on a genocidal cop who is pro-border wall, pro-incarceration of refugees, pro-genocide, pro-cop city, pro-lethal response to protesters, etc, or I can vote for the Green party to get actual funding and actual participation in the election process in 4 years.

    You can vote for a candidate who’s got a chance of beating the authoritarian dictator wannabe, or you can throw away your vote on a spoiler candidate with no chance of winning the election on the hopes that other people don’t do the same and let Trump win.

    I do hope that if Trump wins, all of you people who’re trying to take the moral high ground will reflect on the situation and realize that you not only didn’t do the bare minimum you could have to stop it, your actions actually indirectly assisted him gaining power again. I don’t have much hope that that will happen, but I hope it does.

    It’s really a shame, because normally, I’d be very in support of the green party. I like their platform. But they need to get political seats elsewhere before going for the fucking presidency. Even if, by some weird happenstance, they got elected, they would be completely blocked by the other branches of government at every turn. Get some seats in local government, get some seats in state governments, get some house and senate seats, then try to join the big leagues.

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      Exactly, Jill Stein is a stooge with no government experience whatsoever who thinks she can jump right in and be president of the most powerful country on earth. Not to mention taking money from republicans and accepting legal aid from Trump’s personal attorneys. It’s a joke.

      If you want to be a real candidate, start with city council. Mayor. Governor. state senate. ANYTHING and work up from there. But she isn’t interested in making any actual progress.

      Look at AOC for example, a progressive politician who is starting where she can actually make a difference and learn how to be a legislator and leader. Who knows, maybe one day we can vote for her for president.

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      When you lose with your “fall in line with my fascist” bullshit, remember you are at fault for your own loss.

      You could have stood up for what is right, you could have influenced the Democrats to return to their roots, but you didnt. You made excuses for them and championed their fascism.

      You are the reason they lost.

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        16 hours ago

        I honestly hope you’re getting paid by someone to be here. The Trump campaign, Musk, Putin, China, somebody, because at least then I could understand your stance from a purely self-serving standpoint. If this is your sincerely held belief, I don’t know what happened to get you here, but you should probably review your sources and really think about what you’re saying, because it’s pure fiction.

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          15 hours ago

          Not a penny.

          You are projecting how the DNC is paying TikTokkers to play their spin. (didnt TikTok get banned by purple fascist federal decree?)

          I just voted with a clear conscience, and a plan that in 4 years, Green will be in the mix, and if it goes well, in 8 years America will have stopped being fascist.