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    18 hours ago

    No genocide in Ukraine. Liberated regions will stay Russian, no NATO path, neutrality commitment. Can trade with EU/US if it wants, though Russia has expressed resistance to this. Likely referendums for what country oblasts wish to join, though Ukraine would resist this latter point, but just betrays what hated nazis they are in east and Odessa. Peace.

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      17 hours ago

      Liberated regions”
      “No NATO”
      “What hated nazis they are in east and Odessa”
      “Russia is only side in this war that has ever offered reasonable peace”

      How many rubles are they paying you to write this? If it’s more than zero, they’re overpaying. Nothing says subtle social media propaganda campaign like using Russian talking points.

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        Pro war people do it for love apparently, despite oligarchy profiting extensively and able to pour some trickle down on you, but no one can ever be against the human suffering and economic destruction, just at home, caused by warmongering evil without being paid to not support the demonism.

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          39 minutes ago

          The United States is fucked up and run by the rich and corporations, that much is obvious to anyone who didn’t buy into the “American Dream” lies they try to feed us. But, that’s irrelvant to the discussion about Ukraine’s existence as a country independent from Russia.

          Last I checked, Russia invaded Ukraine and started this whole ordeal. Why should Ukraine be obligated to roll over like a dog, hand over their land and autonomy, and thank their attackers for not subjugating them further? Aren’t you against colonialism?