The port has been there for nearly a decade.
  • fubarx@lemmy.ml
    801·
    2 months ago

    First time, people thought it was an innocent design mistake. An oversight ona minor product.

    Next update, OK still there, but maybe it was a leftover from the original design.

    This time. No, it’s intentional. You deserve all the mocking heading your way.

  • Rob@lemmy.world
    721·
    2 months ago

    The charging port is one thing. What’s worse to me is that it’s just a shit mouse.

    Had to use one for two days recently; my wrist started hurting like hell. It lacks basic ergonomics and the scrolling is horrendous.

  • ChicoSuave@lemmy.world
    30·
    2 months ago

    Make a wireless mousepad to charge it and it will not need the USB port. And it will cost 3 times as much. Let the pad charge an iPhone too. It would be perfect.

    • Ansis100@lemmy.world
      72·
      2 months ago

      A mousepad? From Apple? Didn’t you know that all MacBook users use them exclusively inside a trendy coffee shop or on the couch? There’s no place for a mousepad!

    • el_abuelo@programming.dev
      4·
      2 months ago

      I’ve got the logitech one that does this and it’s amazing. Love it.

      The problem they have is that they already used iPad so they are probably waiting until that product is dead before recycling the name.

    • MrMxyztplk@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      2 months ago

      I had something kinda like this from Corsair. Though it only had a small spot in a corner where you would place your phone/mouse.

      • The_sleepy_woke_dialectic [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        2·
        2 months ago

        The keyboard and mouse should both charge by sticking to the rear of the iMac with a big magnet, that would be pretty neat and tidy when you want them out of the way and make it easier to transport too.

      • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        22·
        2 months ago

        I have one of those for the original roach mouse. It it was awful.

        They could do qui2 and that wouldn’t be awful charging wise, but now the puck is gonna stick to your mouse. You can’t really wireless charge your mouse and move it. You could make a mouse pad with 500 charge coils but then you’d just try to make Apple’s failed AirPower. It might be enough for a mouse, but it’s gonna be stupid expensive and stupid inefficient. Logitech has their G power system but that’s $120 without a mouse.

        • Baguette@lemm.ee
          7·
          2 months ago

          Apple users would be far more likely to pay big money for a wireless charging pad and mouse combo like logitechs though. Sounds like an easy pitch imo.

          • Ptsf@lemmy.world
            3·
            2 months ago

            Tbh best peripheral purchase I’ve made. The charging pad has even outlasted the mice I’ve used it with and I’ve never had any issues, just a completely wireless mouse that never dies.

            • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
              2·
              2 months ago

              What are you doing to your mice to make them not last that long? I’ve been using the same G502 since like 2018 and I only replaced my G700s with it because I got annoyed with it’s battery life and charging cable.

              • Ptsf@lemmy.world
                2·
                2 months ago

                … Clicking the button? Switches have a finite lifespan, just because I click it a lot doesn’t make it an abused peripheral or anything I just work IT from home and play a lot of click intensive games tbh

            • el_abuelo@programming.dev
              2·
              2 months ago

              Same, love it.

              I need to replace the matt that sits on top of the charging pad but the expensive parts are still going strong!

  • AusatKeyboardPremi@lemmy.world
    2317·
    2 months ago

    I use a wireless mouse from Logitech for work (and so does a lot of my coworkers), and never in its ~5 years of use did I use the mouse plugged in.

    The device gives multiple low battery warnings well in advance. I just plug it in before logging off after I receive the second or third warning.

    I acknowledge Apple’s obtuseness of choosing form over function with the Magic Mouse (among other devices across their catalogue), but anyone who has used a wireless mouse daily would know that it is not as big of a deal as the media and community makes it out to be every time a discussion takes place about the Magic Mouse.

    • the_sisko@startrek.websiteEnglish
      111·
      2 months ago

      I mean while we’re sharing anecdotes, I use a wireless Logitech mouse and I plug it in and continue using it when I get a low battery warning. I can’t charge it overnight because I plug it into my monitor’s USB port which powers down when the monitor sleeps.

      We exist! Lol

      • AusatKeyboardPremi@lemmy.world
        16·
        2 months ago

        Congratulations for existing and for missing the point of my comment.

        Regardless of your choice of wireless mouse and how you use it, do have a USB port free which is not locked to your monitor, and is preferably connected to a charger. What if your phone needs a charge while you are at your desk but are not using your monitor?

        • the_sisko@startrek.websiteEnglish
          41·
          2 months ago

          Lol I actually have very few open USB ports, thus why I choose to put the mouse cable in the spare one on my monitor. And I charge my phone on a wireless charger plugged into the wall?

          Anyway I’m not telling you you’re wrong for charging your mouse after work or whatever. I’m just saying that designers are wrong if they don’t give consumers the option to use their mouse while charging its battery. That’s just basic.

          • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            3·
            2 months ago

            As someone with annoyingly limited USBs because the front of my PC is annoyingly far from my desk with how my room is:

            Just get a USB hub with 4/5 plugs, if you’ve got a c port on your mobo then use that for the hub. Put chargers for your remote accessories on it since it won’t need a ton of power or data throughout

            Its just… So much nicer to not worry about your monitor turning off. Even if you don’t worry about it, it’s just nicer to have

            I’m 1000% with you on the mouse, I just last week got a new USB hub and want to save others if possible

    • ExperiencedWinter@lemmy.world
      156·
      2 months ago

      “yOuRe hOLdInG iT WrONg” apple users will jump through any hoop to forgive apple shitting on them. I never plug my mouse in from a low battery warning, why would I when I can just plug it in and use it corded when it dies?

      • AusatKeyboardPremi@lemmy.world
        23·
        2 months ago

        You may desperately twist words and infer more than what is written in my comment, and lose your cool, or understand that this is not as big of a deal as the discourse may lead one to believe.

        There are options for everyone.

    • Donebrach@lemmy.world
      116·
      2 months ago

      There is no low battery warning with the magic mouse. it will just shut down. This is an immense usability issue to the point that I had two on standby at work because the fucking things will just STOP working. This is a major design flaw and classic Apple—they have no direction in their product creation and haven’t since Steve Jobs died.

      edit: apparently there is a warning but the fact remains it is a horribly designed product.

      • kinttach@lemm.eeEnglish
        61·
        2 months ago

        Is this true? I don’t use a Magic Mouse but my Magic Trackpad and Apple wireless keyboard both give low battery warnings.

        • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod@lemmy.worldEnglish
          6·
          2 months ago

          I have an old, non-rechargeable Magic Mouse and there is a low battery warning in the menu bar when it gets low. OP doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

      • jqubed@lemmy.world
        2·
        2 months ago

        I don’t use the Magic Mouse because I think it’s uncomfortable, but I get notifications with my Apple keyboard and Logitech mouse, and there are native battery widgets in the control center that show for all of them (including non-Apple devices like my mouse and headphones). I find it very hard to believe that the Magic Mouse is unique and refuses to let people know its charge state.

        Whether or not that notification pops up and disappears while I’m not using the computer is another story, but I’m pretty sure those notifications can be changed to stay on-screen until they’re dismissed.

        • Donebrach@lemmy.world
          11·
          2 months ago

          I stopped using them a long while ago so might not be remembering correctly, regardless, getting a low battery notification is pointless on the device since the main issue is charging it makes it unusable, at least with the keyboard and track pad you can plug them in and still use them.

          anyway, I think everyone in the world—except Tim Apple—agrees that the design is fucking horrible.

    • H4CK3RN4M3D4N63R570RM@lemmy.caEnglish
      5·
      2 months ago

      I use a wireless Logitech mouse daily for work.

      I have a mental disorder. I can easily forget to bring a cable with me so the battery will get much lower than the 10% low battery threshold. I can then KEEP FORGETTING to charge it. When I’m finally with a cable, it’s nice to be able to use it plugged in.

      I think this whole situation shouldn’t be a WHY question, but a WHY NOT?

  • jaschen@lemm.ee
    137·
    2 months ago

    The last 3 web marketing startups are exclusively MacOS. I had to get all of them to let me use a PC as an exception because the mass majority of our web visitors use PCs and we are not able to QA correctly because everyone at the company uses a Mac.

    I tried to use the MacOS. There seems like there is an intentional input lag. It’s slight but it just feels slower. I have a Samsung Odyssey OLED 49 ultra wide and it restricts my fps to 120 when it’s able to do 240hz.

    It won’t let me plug in 3 monitors. And even with just 2 connected, when I’m working on a secondary screen it blurs my clock on the primary screen. But wwwwwhhhhhhyyyyyyy…!!! What’s the fucking point!!! Why do people insist on using Mac’s!!! This OS is terrible.

    • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9·
      2 months ago

      I tried to use the MacOS. There seems like there is an intentional input lag. It’s slight but it just feels slower.

      Go into the mouse settings increase the tracking speed. It’s the first thing I do on every Mac because otherwise it feels slow.

      It won’t let me plug in 3 monitors. And even with just 2 connected, when I’m working on a secondary screen it blurs my clock on the primary screen.

      I’ve got three monitors on my Mac right now and none of the menu bars are blurred out. I don’t know what you’re doing wrong here.

      • jaschen@lemm.ee
        5·
        2 months ago

        It’s not really the tracking speed but there is sort of a smoothing thing turned on. Just seems less crisp when moving the mouse around.

        It won’t let me plug in 2 external monitors. Just 1 extra one. Probably have an older Mac.

        • Ironfacebuster@lemmy.world
          1·
          2 months ago

          I have the exact same issue on my MacBook that doesn’t happen when I’m using the trackpad. Using a secondhand magic mouse or a surface arc mouse and it’s extremely delayed. I know the Microsoft mouse connects through Bluetooth, but wow is it bad.

          The latency combined with the weird mouse smoothing and acceleration that you can’t disable made me give up using a mouse and just locked me to using the trackpad

          • jaschen@lemm.ee
            1·
            2 months ago

            Dude, that’s exactly what I mean. I’m using a gen 2 mighty mouse and it was basically useless.

      • jqubed@lemmy.world
        21·
        2 months ago

        Maybe they need to be using a higher tier chip to support a monitor that big at that refresh rate? Like Apple treats it as two external monitors under the hood or something so they need to be on a Pro or Max chip?

    • H4CK3RN4M3D4N63R570RM@lemmy.caEnglish
      9·
      2 months ago

      If this is the reason, it’s very disappointing. They designed the mouse; they can make it smart enough to stop charging itself while still plugged in… Or is it because they want THEIR mouse on your desk to look ‘clean’ as often as possible?

    • Wolf314159@startrek.website
      1·
      2 months ago

      Neither have I because they all take replaceable AA sized batteries and last literally months between changes or charges (if you get rechargeable AAs). Seems a much more robust design from my POV

      • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        1·
        2 months ago

        It is until you fucking forget you’re out of batteries and your stupid goddamn mouse just died during s good gaming session when all the shops are closed

        Owning rechargeables helps with that though

        • Wolf314159@startrek.website
          2·
          2 months ago

          True, that sounds frustrating and I’ve been there. But, I grew up in an age where that was just a fact of life, and before rechargeables were very good. So when the last fresh battery goes in you buy a new box. It’s like one or two battery changes a year for the mouse I use 8-10 hours a day 3-5 days a week. The mouse itself also gives plenty of warning. Not really on my radar of worries.

          • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            1·
            2 months ago

            I also grew up in that age, but the ADHD means I always forgot I hasn’t gotten new batteries (that and the cost of batteries made my blood pressure skyrocket too)

            Personally I want a mouse with both: let me plug it in when I’m playing something less hardcore or using it for browsing so I can charge a removable AA or battery pack or whatever, that way I can have on-demand power/access but also hot-swappable packs for when I WANT wireless