• exasperation@lemm.eeEnglish
    6·
    9 days ago

    I’m new to this community. What is this thread? Do people submit their own votes for a straw poll here?

    As far as I can tell, it seems like most commenters have their own computer ranking systems that they’re explaining as they submit.

    It’s all pretty interesting, but pretty intimidating for someone new to this place.

    • WVbrU@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      9 days ago

      Pretty much! It doesn’t have to be a computer poll, it can be just your opinion, or a hybrid.

      I do a computer poll, because a) I don’t watch enough games to make an informed ranking and b) it’s a fun exercise in coding and tuning the algorithm(s) for me.

      You also don’t need to share your ballot in the comments, but I also enjoy sharing and explaining what my algorithm is doing and if/where I disagree with it.

      • milkisklim@lemm.eeEnglish
        2·
        5 days ago

        If you use an API to get stats for your algorithm would you be willing to say which ones? Making my own sounds like a fun casual project.

    • g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.worldOPMEnglish
      4·
      9 days ago

      !WVbrU@lemmy.world took the words right out of my mouth. I agree that it can be pretty intimidating at first. Either to put together a computer poll (which I still haven’t done as I haven’t found one that represents my big orange bias well enough) or to put together a human poll. I would say if you’re interested in the former most of the commenters around here are huge nerds (no offense y’all) and would likely be willing to show you a thing or two. Putting together a human poll is probably easier, but at least for me starting out I was certainly worried and sometimes blocked by my own perceived “correctness”. Remember though, there are no right or wrong answers.

      Part of the reason we have this open poll is to get as many ballots as possible, and smooth out any noise from strange rankings. We also have a lot of fun with those strange rankings, at least once a season we get a ballot with someones favorite team taking the top spot with no justification other than “Go <team>” and it always brings a smile to my face at least. Again some advice if you’re interested in starting your own human poll, a good place to start is by “correcting” the AP poll so that you think it’s good. After a few weeks of this you start to get a hang for your own ranking system and again, there are no right or wrong answers. As an added bonus we’re doing a cfb bracket prediction contest next week that you still have time to become eligible for! More information in the pinned post here.

  • ToasterOverlord@fanaticus.socialMEnglish
    4·
    11 days ago

    My ballot. Computer poll. My Longhorns fall out of the top spot. Womp womp.

    I genuinely checked USC about 5 times over the past couple days to make sure I didn’t input any data incorrectly or screwed up the formula, but it actually has them tied for 9th. It’s super nutty, but everything else checks out. The reason the Trojans are so high is mostly their schedule – they didn’t play any FCS teams, which get heavily docked in my algorithm. Although they’ve lost 4 games, they’re all by 1 score. But with ND at the end of the year, that schedule is just brutal. It’s like they’re trying to get Lincoln Riley fired.

    Full ranking:
    Rank Change Team Record Points
    1 +1 Notre Dame 7-1 576
    2 -1 Texas 7-1 571
    3 +2 Alabama 6-2 543
    4 +4 Oregon 8-0 521
    5 +1 Indiana 8-0 515
    6 +11 Texas A&M 7-1 482
    7 +3 Ole Miss 6-2 481
    8 +1 Ohio State 6-1 479
    T9 +2 Miami (FL) 8-0 475
    T9 +2 USC 4-4 475
    11 +3 BYU 8-0 467
    12 -9 Clemson 6-1 461
    13 -9 Georgia 6-1 459
    14 +2 Virginia Tech 5-3 457
    15 - SMU 7-1 453
    16 +6 Penn State 7-0 449
    17 -10 Tennessee 6-1 445
    18 +1 LSU 6-2 426
    19 +1 Georgia Tech 5-4 424
    20 +8 Colorado 6-2 420
    21 +5 Kansas State 7-1 419
    22 +17 Arkansas 5-3 415
    23 +4 Vanderbilt 5-3 411
    24 +11 Minnesota 5-3 409
    25 +5 JMU 6-2 408
    26 -2 Wisconsin 5-3 407
    27 -2 UNLV 6-2 404
    28 -15 Iowa State 7-0 401
    T29 - Cincinnati 5-3 400
    T29 +12 Iowa 5-3 400
    31 +3 Tulane 6-2 392
    32 +12 California 4-4 390
    T33 +3 Louisville 5-3 389
    T33 -15 South Carolina 4-3 389
    T35 -15 Army 7-0 385
    T35 +4 Michigan 5-3 385
    37 -6 Kentucky 3-5 382
    38 +24 Pittsburgh 7-0 378
    39 -16 Arizona State 5-2 375
    40 +13 Baylor 4-4 374
    41 - Duke 6-2 373
    42 +2 Utah 4-4 372
    T43 -11 Illinois 6-2 369
    T43 -5 Washington 4-4 369
    45 +20 Miami (OH) 4-4 366
    46 - Boston College 4-4 365
    T47 - Washington State 7-1 364
    T47 -15 Missouri 6-2 364
    T47 +5 Nebraska 5-3 364
    T47 +7 Kansas 2-6 364
    51 +4 TCU 5-3 362
    52 -3 Memphis 7-1 360
    T53 -4 Northern Illinois 4-4 358
    T53 +27 North Carolina 4-4 358
    55 -4 Oklahoma 4-4 357
    56 +2 Sam Houston 6-2 354
    T57 +6 Texas Tech 5-3 351
    T57 +17 Auburn 3-5 351
    59 +1 Connecticut 5-3 350
    60 +11 Old Dominion 4-4 348
    61 -14 Northwestern 3-5 346
    62 +9 Jacksonville State 4-3 344
    63 +3 Boise State 6-1 342
    64 +14 West Virginia 4-4 339
    T65 -6 Toledo 5-3 333
    T65 -5 Maryland 4-4 333
    T67 +13 Bowling Green 4-4 332
    T67 +3 Oklahoma State 3-5 332
    69 -33 Florida 4-3 331
    70 -3 UCF 3-5 329
    71 +17 South Alabama 4-4 327
    72 -16 Navy 6-1 325
    T73 -6 Rutgers 4-4 324
    T73 +6 Arizona 3-5 324
    75 -32 Texas State 4-3 322
    T76 -13 Virginia 4-4 321
    T76 +7 Michigan State 4-4 321
    78 +8 Houston 3-5 319
    79 +11 Fresno State 5-3 317
    80 +13 Georgia Southern 5-3 313
    T81 -25 Louisiana 6-1 310
    T81 +1 UNT 5-3 310
    T81 -8 Nevada 3-6 310
    84 -9 San Jose State 5-3 308
    T85 -8 Syracuse 5-2 307
    T85 +10 Ohio 5-3 307
    87 -3 Florida State 1-7 303
    T88 +2 Eastern Michigan 5-3 299
    T88 +10 Western Michigan 5-3 299
    90 -23 Western Kentucky 5-2 292
    91 +8 Wake Forest 4-4 288
    T92 -19 NC State 4-4 284
    T92 -7 Oregon State 4-4 284
    T92 +1 FIU 2-6 284
    95 +7 ECU 4-4 282
    T96 +1 Colorado State 5-3 273
    T96 +7 New Mexico 3-5 273
    98 +3 Louisiana Tech 3-4 269
    99 -13 UCLA 2-5 266
    100 -11 Marshall 4-3 260
    101 +5 Arkansas State 5-3 259
    102 -6 Buffalo 4-4 257
    T103 -11 Coastal Carolina 4-3 248
    T103 +6 UTSA 3-5 248
    105 -5 Mississippi State 1-7 245
    106 +5 Liberty 5-1 242
    T107 +5 Charlotte 3-5 241
    T107 +9 Stanford 2-6 241
    109 +3 Rice 2-6 240
    110 +4 Troy 1-7 239
    111 +8 Hawaii 3-5 238
    112 -5 UL Monroe 5-2 235
    T113 +2 San Diego State 3-4 234
    T113 -5 Temple 2-6 234
    115 -11 Central Michigan 3-5 233
    116 +1 Wyoming 1-7 228
    117 +1 Ball State 3-5 224
    118 +1 UTEP 1-7 222
    119 -15 FAU 2-5 221
    120 +2 Georgia State 2-5 219
    121 +2 Tulsa 3-5 210
    122 -13 USF 3-4 206
    123 +2 Utah State 2-6 205
    T124 +8 Appalachian State 3-4 189
    T124 +7 Akron 2-6 189
    126 +1 Southern Mississippi 1-7 186
    127 -8 Air Force 1-6 182
    128 -4 Massachusetts 2-6 179
    129 +1 Middle Tennessee 2-6 175
    130 +3 Kennesaw State 1-6 171
    131 -5 New Mexico State 2-5 157
    132 -4 Purdue 1-6 153
    133 -4 UAB 1-6 151
    134 - Kent State 0-8 144
    • MaroonMage@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      11 days ago

      Your computer usually isn’t very kind to my Texas A&M Aggies…glad to see it’s softening up on them some.

      If the Longhorns and the Aggies both make it to Thanksgiving with only one loss, the hype is going to be unreal.

      • ToasterOverlord@fanaticus.socialMEnglish
        2·
        10 days ago

        Oh I feel like it always places A&M too high (even trying to compensate for the Burnt Orange Bias), but this season it feels right. I’m surprised your computer has y’all as low as 12th – although that is a very A&M number.

        The hype for that game was always going to be off the charts, but I really hope we both run the table getting there to up the ante. It also becomes a de facto play-in game to the SECCCG. It would be awesome if that game could be a rematch, although unfortunately one of the teams will likely be Georgia. :/ There is good rematch potential in the playoff though. Salivating at the idea of beating A&M twice in one season…

  • WVbrU@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    11 days ago

    Here are the results from my computer poll. Oregon overtakes Indiana, and Notre Dame gets a big boost. Navy sadly falls out of the Top 25, but still on the bubble.

    1. Oregon
    2. Indiana
    3. Notre Dame
    4. Penn State
    5. Miami
    6. Texas
    7. Texas A&M
    8. Pittsburgh
    9. Ohio State
    10. BYU
    11. Clemson
    12. SMU
    13. Kansas State
    14. Iowa State
    15. Tennessee
    16. Georgia
    17. LSU
    18. Alabama
    19. Colorado
    20. Army
    21. Virginia Tech
    22. Ole Miss
    23. Boise State
    24. Washington State
    25. Tulane
    Full Rankings
    Rank Team Record Rating SOS
    1 Oregon (8-0) 1376 963
    2 Indiana (8-0) 1363 883
    3 Notre Dame (7-1) 1352 1024
    4 Penn State (7-0) 1333 980
    5 Miami (8-0) 1323 936
    6 Texas (7-1) 1312 1018
    7 Texas A&M (7-1) 1311 1014
    8 Pittsburgh (7-0) 1301 897
    9 Ohio State (6-1) 1281 1053
    10 BYU (8-0) 1279 927
    11 Clemson (6-1) 1277 972
    12 SMU (7-1) 1274 939
    13 Kansas State (7-1) 1271 975
    14 Iowa State (7-0) 1269 923
    15 Tennessee (6-1) 1269 920
    16 Georgia (6-1) 1265 992
    17 LSU (6-2) 1234 1021
    18 Alabama (6-2) 1233 1130
    19 Colorado (6-2) 1226 974
    20 Army (7-0) 1223 760
    21 Virginia Tech (5-3) 1210 1040
    22 Ole Miss (6-2) 1205 933
    23 Boise State (6-1) 1204 963
    24 Washington State (7-1) 1189 931
    25 Tulane (6-2) 1177 894
    26 Memphis (7-1) 1167 823
    27 Illinois (6-2) 1154 980
    28 Minnesota (5-3) 1148 932
    29 Louisville (5-3) 1144 1047
    30 Vanderbilt (5-3) 1144 979
    31 Navy (6-1) 1142 861
    32 Arkansas (5-3) 1135 952
    33 Western Kentucky (5-2) 1122 871
    34 Missouri (6-2) 1121 960
    35 Wisconsin (5-3) 1118 954
    36 Cincinnati (5-3) 1115 1006
    37 Iowa (5-3) 1113 970
    38 Michigan (5-3) 1112 1093
    39 Florida (4-3) 1110 997
    40 Nebraska (5-3) 1110 982
    41 South Carolina (4-3) 1110 1064
    42 Syracuse (5-2) 1110 952
    43 Arizona State (5-2) 1108 926
    44 Louisiana (6-1) 1108 829
    45 TCU (5-3) 1100 909
    46 Duke (6-2) 1099 908
    47 UNLV (6-2) 1098 914
    48 Old Dominion (4-4) 1091 997
    49 James Madison (6-2) 1090 863
    50 Baylor (4-4) 1061 964
    51 Miami (OH) (4-4) 1061 976
    52 Georgia Southern (5-3) 1057 942
    53 Washington (4-4) 1056 988
    54 Sam Houston (6-2) 1055 867
    55 USC (4-4) 1053 1078
    56 Fresno State (5-3) 1051 893
    57 Texas Tech (5-3) 1048 982
    58 Georgia Tech (5-4) 1042 996
    59 UConn (5-3) 1035 852
    60 Liberty (5-1) 1032 737
    61 North Carolina (4-4) 1032 993
    62 West Virginia (4-4) 1027 1033
    63 Jacksonville State (4-3) 1024 837
    64 Wake Forest (4-4) 1024 976
    65 UL Monroe (5-2) 1022 842
    66 Ohio (5-3) 1014 871
    67 Michigan State (4-4) 1012 1006
    68 Colorado State (5-3) 1011 878
    69 California (4-4) 1006 958
    70 Texas State (4-3) 1001 872
    71 Western Michigan (5-3) 999 865
    72 Marshall (4-3) 996 938
    73 North Texas (5-3) 990 886
    74 Boston College (4-4) 989 980
    75 South Alabama (4-4) 989 897
    76 NC State (4-4) 988 972
    77 Maryland (4-4) 987 986
    78 Oklahoma (4-4) 982 1104
    79 Auburn (3-5) 980 963
    80 Toledo (5-3) 975 855
    81 Virginia (4-4) 972 973
    82 Houston (3-5) 964 1024
    83 UCLA (2-5) 962 1173
    84 Arkansas State (5-3) 957 874
    85 East Carolina (4-4) 957 890
    86 Bowling Green (4-4) 955 918
    87 UCF (3-5) 939 1069
    88 Kentucky (3-5) 935 1066
    89 San José State (5-3) 931 815
    90 Coastal Carolina (4-3) 930 929
    91 Utah (4-4) 920 900
    92 San Diego State (3-4) 918 832
    93 Rutgers (4-4) 913 960
    94 Eastern Michigan (5-3) 908 805
    95 Kansas (2-6) 906 1015
    96 Northwestern (3-5) 903 1025
    97 Buffalo (4-4) 898 893
    98 Oklahoma State (3-5) 897 991
    99 Charlotte (3-5) 895 994
    100 Oregon State (4-4) 893 926
    101 Arizona (3-5) 889 1004
    102 South Florida (3-4) 887 959
    103 Northern Illinois (4-4) 873 896
    104 Ball State (3-5) 871 904
    105 App State (3-4) 866 939
    106 Florida State (1-7) 862 1147
    107 New Mexico (3-5) 858 817
    108 Hawai’i (3-5) 842 866
    109 Tulsa (3-5) 834 862
    110 Stanford (2-6) 824 1093
    111 Temple (2-6) 818 985
    112 Louisiana Tech (3-4) 816 739
    113 Central Michigan (3-5) 810 885
    114 Mississippi State (1-7) 805 1077
    115 Nevada (3-6) 801 921
    116 Rice (2-6) 801 944
    117 UTSA (3-5) 799 850
    118 Purdue (1-6) 797 1058
    119 Florida Atlantic (2-5) 790 888
    120 Utah State (2-6) 780 879
    121 Akron (2-6) 767 948
    122 Florida International (2-6) 754 874
    123 Georgia State (2-5) 753 942
    124 New Mexico State (2-5) 752 891
    125 Massachusetts (2-6) 727 830
    126 UTEP (1-7) 724 912
    127 Middle Tennessee (2-6) 720 942
    128 UAB (1-6) 717 998
    129 Kennesaw State (1-6) 707 859
    130 Southern Miss (1-7) 697 928
    131 Troy (1-7) 691 931
    132 Wyoming (1-7) 684 885
    133 Air Force (1-6) 676 870
    134 Kent State (0-8) 592 1004
  • MaroonMage@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    11 days ago

    Computer poll, resume ranking. Ohio State/Penn State gonna make things interesting this weekend. Also, Liberty fell 41 rankings with their loss to the Kennesaw Hoots, which is a huge change this late in the season.

    1. Oregon (1) | 8 - 0 | LW: 1 ( - )
    2. Penn State (5.35) | 7 - 0 | LW: 2 ( - )
    3. Ohio State (7.77) | 6 - 1 | LW: 6 (+3)
    4. Miami (9.96) | 8 - 0 | LW: 5 (+1)
    5. BYU (11.47) | 8 - 0 | LW: 4 (-1)
    6. Notre Dame (11.7) | 7 - 1 | LW: 9 (+3)
    7. Iowa State (11.82) | 7 - 0 | LW: 8 (+1)
    8. Indiana (13.1) | 8 - 0 | LW: 3 (-5)
    9. Pittsburgh (13.56) | 7 - 0 | LW: 13 (+4)
    10. Texas (13.65) | 7 - 1 | LW: 7 (-3)
    11. Alabama (14.88) | 6 - 2 | LW: 11 ( - )
    12. Texas A&M (16.56) | 7 - 1 | LW: 16 (+4)
    13. Georgia (18.77) | 6 - 1 | LW: 10 (-3)
    14. Boise State (20.02) | 6 - 1 | LW: 19 (+5)
    15. Kansas State (20.68) | 7 - 1 | LW: 12 (-3)
    16. SMU (22.52) | 7 - 1 | LW: 18 (+2)
    17. Clemson (22.97) | 6 - 1 | LW: 14 (-3)
    18. Tennessee (25.57) | 6 - 1 | LW: 20 (+2)
    19. Washington State (28.2) | 7 - 1 | LW: 21 (+2)
    20. LSU (30.75) | 6 - 2 | LW: 17 (-3)
    21. Army (31.71) | 7 - 0 | LW: 22 (+1)
    22. Ole Miss (35.05) | 6 - 2 | LW: 27 (+5)
    23. Colorado (35.77) | 6 - 2 | LW: 32 (+9)
    24. Navy (37.05) | 6 - 1 | LW: 15 (-9)
    25. Illinois (37.16) | 6 - 2 | LW: 23 (-2)
  • g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.worldOPMEnglish
    2·
    9 days ago

    My ballot this week, late as with everything else as I play catch up. Poll will be up in maybe a few hours as I gotta bust out some work before I have time for that.

    1. Oregon
    2. Georgia
    3. Miami (FL)
    4. Tennessee
    5. Texas
    6. Indiana
    7. Iowa State
    8. Ohio State
    9. Army
    10. LSU
    11. Clemson
    12. Notre Dame
    13. Penn State
    14. Illinois
    15. BYU
    16. Texas A&M
    17. Boise State
    18. Pittsburgh
    19. Vanderbilt
    20. Alabama
    21. Kansas State
    22. Washington State
    23. UNLV
    24. Nebraska
    25. Arkansas

    Also ngl, as a gator hator, they are probably on my short list of missing the ballot this week. If they manage an upset at TWLOCP…