• rottingleaf@lemmy.world
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    23 hours ago

    Ukraine was always friendly with the Trump crowd, I think. So is Putin, but this is not as clear cut. Palestine is fucked, but it already was. Vance even said something along not interfering between Israel and Iran, so it’s about equally fucked, maybe even less fucked.

    We live in a world with skewed media picture of what’s happening, and the distortion by Trump people and the distortion by DNC people do not cancel each other out. In some ways they work in the same direction.

    Only the biggest and rawest facts should really be used in the comparison. What both have actually done in full. Not what they promise, not project 2025, just the real things. Weapons, money, territory, and not a token amount with some promise, but all. Same way you pay for groceries. Politicians are like shoplifters.

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      20 hours ago

      “Ukraine was always friendly with the Trump crowd, I think.”

      Timmy, what the everloving fuck are you smoking?

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        12 hours ago

        Well, the previous govt was pretty shitty leftovers from the Soviet era. Zelenskyy has turned out to not only talk the talk for a tv show but walk the walk and actually lead the country. He knows how fucked this is and is trying to do damage control in hope of keeping the ammo coming. Like most things conservative every accusation is a confession, when Putin talked about de-nazifying Ukraine, they had already done so through the democratic process and put the funny guy in charge.

        With the rerun of this administration though, who knows which side we’ll send aid to and there may be someone in Kyiv loyal to Moscow again. I really fucking hope not but this result will likely do more to help the orcs than our new allies.