• Doubledee [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    Is the Donbas a separate country because it declared independence from Ukraine?

    EDIT: Which is actually more than Taiwan has done, the government in exile on Taiwan considers itself the rightful government of the entirety of mainland China and parts of Mongolia.

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      1 year ago

      Way to just completely ignore my point and move the goal posts?

      Are the 13 colonies a separate country because they declared independence from the United Kingdom?

      Don’t bother replying. I don’t want waste my time talking to people who can’t answer a simple question

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        1 year ago

        I’m not moving the goalposts, I’m just pointing out that it’s a bit disingenuous to frame a question about what should happen in an unresolved civil war as a question of nations and their sovereignty. It would be disingenuous to frame Russia’s intervention in Ukraine as defending the independence of an entire country, I think it’s a similar situation between ROC/PRC, the primary difference being the length of the dispute.

        Which is relevant if we’re talking about how one can consistently be anti-imperialist, I think. I agree it’s a bit flippant to say stuff about ‘giving up Loser Island’ but I think it’s important to recognize that it’s more complicated than ‘two independent countries fighting over the territory of one of them.’

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      Donbas isn’t comparable. The government in Taiwan has had a continuous existence since before the CCP.

      If the rebellious territories of the Donbas was actually a preexisting government that had all the rest of its territory taken in a civil war you might be onto something. In reality Ukraine gained sovereignty from imperial USSR and now imperial Russia wants to take it over again.