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Trump’s nomination of Pete Hegseth, a Fox News presenter with minimal managerial experience, as defense secretary has stunned the Pentagon.

Hegseth has been a vocal critic of the military, calling for a purge of generals and questioning the appointment of Gen. Charles Brown as chair of the joint chiefs of staff.

Hegseth’s nomination is seen as a boost for the far right in Israel, as he has shown support for territorial expansion and suggested the construction of a new temple on the Temple Mount.

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    Are you living under a fucking rock?

    Palestinians are already fucked. They are literally going through a genocide. There is no worse outcome.

    It doesn’t get worse under Trump, it’s the same under Trump. Just as Biden continued Trumps other Israel bullshit. Birds of a feather massacre together.

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      The death toll up to this point is about 45k. Israel has not settled any land in Gaza or started expelling Palestinians into neighboring countries. There is a lot of room for it to get worse.

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      Palestinians are already fucked. They are literally going through a genocide. There is no worse outcome.

      Ah yes, the two states of existence, genocide, and not-genocide. That’s why the genocide, which has been going on for near two-decades now, is no more urgent today than it was in September of last year.

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        I hate that idea. It was genocide when the Nazis were putting Jews in ghettos, it was genocide when Nazis were putting them in labor camps, it was genocide when they decided on the Final Solution and started putting them in the gas chambers.

        Genocide can get worse. People who say that it can’t are coming from such a ridiculous position of privilege that they will never understand suffering.

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        Pug I usually respect your takes, but this isn’t one of them.

        For nearly a century it’s been a state of apartheid, the genocide in earnest started after oct. The UN and many other institutions have raised huge concerns over it.

        It feels like you’re just trying to downplay what Palestinians are actively going through under Biden to push on the angle of Trump being worse. Honestly it reeks of genocide denial, which I suspect wasn’t your intent.

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          It feels like you’re just trying to downplay what Palestinians are actively going through under Biden to push on the angle of Trump being worse.

          “Palestinians are being genocided, but that doesn’t mean that the genocide can’t happen faster or in a more bloody manner”

          “I think you’re just trying to downplay what Palestinians are going through under Biden”

          ???

          For nearly a century it’s been a state of apartheid, the genocide in earnest started after oct.

          No. It really didn’t start in October.

          The UN and many other institutions have raised huge concerns over it.

          Yes, they have, and rightfully so. The escalation of the genocide to where it is now is a major atrocity, beyond where the genocide was before.

          Don’t be fooled for a single fucking second that this is as bad as it gets.

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            Exactly, it’s such a bizarre statement. It’s like saying ghettoes and the holocaust were the same thing.

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              I’m also guessing that the people in Gaza who are still alive think that it could definitely get worse. What with them not being dead yet.

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          to push on the angle of Trump being worse

          You… You think that is an angle? Wait and see how not worse Trump is for the people in Gaza.

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      There is no worse outcome

      Let’s save that comment so we can revisit in 2025 shall we?

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      There is no worse outcome.

      This reminds me of a joke about Russian history.

      Russian history in 5 words:

      And then things got worse.

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      Biden was pushing for a peace treaty. Trump is going to glass the whole place and build seaside resorts.

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        Biden was pushing for a peace treaty by sending them guns, money, and assurances that the US would attack anyone who resisted?

        Yeah right and McDonalds is a health food company because they offer a salad.

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          The United States has shipped Munitions and weapons to Israel for decades. It didn’t magically become about genocide just because you pretend it did. I would absolutely argue that we should reconsider or slow down or hold off on sending them more. But that wouldn’t have stopped anything. And it would be foolish to think otherwise. And yet there are still so many fools.

          Let’s play a fantasy game for a moment. Biden cancels all future arms shipments to Israel. You’re happy and the situation is now resolved right? The zionists in the house and Senate would never unanimously override his veto. And just continue those shipments. Then he would have burned any political Capital he had for negotiations and goodwill. Leaving us with less chance to stop it than before. And only empowering Netanyahu and the ghoulish zionists.

          This fantasy black and white thinking is a curse. That you and so many others are so terminally online. Getting high on your own supply of passing this rhetoric back and forth that you believe it. Sometimes things are complicated and have nuance. But what’s the point of nuance when you can just virtue signal for nothing and get nothing in return. You won. The Biden ministration nor the Harris administration will be sending any more arms or support to Israel after january. And no one will be arguing for a ceasefire either. Everyone is saved. And you certainly weren’t played a fool. Congratulations.

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              I’d say you’re right. But they need to understand that capitalists will always need to find someone new to exploit, and fascists will always need to find someone new to scapegoat. They’re only safe on the other side of the world so long.

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            Biden cancels all future arms shipments to Israel. You’re happy and the situation is now resolved right?

            Don’t worry, they’ll find something else to be mad about.