• assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works
    83·
    12 hours ago

    And so with the leftist Arabic vote being such a tiny % of the overall voter base, it would be really smart to pivot to single-issue to maybe win some of that 0.46%, right?

      • assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works
        81·
        10 hours ago

        I disabled replies because you said /conversation and I thought it was done. I didn’t bait you.

        I think we agree on most things. I disagree that pivoting left on Palestine would have net improved voter turnout for Harris. I do agree that the Dems have failed to appeal to undecideds and non-voters. I do agree some people in the Democratic party will be blaming third-party voters, despite them being of little consequence this election. Criticizing Hispanics for voting Trump based on vague notions of “the economy” is fair game, though, along with criticizing white people who thought Biden was still running, etc.

        Re: your other post, if your post is so widely misinterpreted that you have to comment a clarification, maybe your communication isn’t clear.

        You’re clearly not dumb, but not everyone who replies is committing a logical fallacy.

        • spujb@lemmy.cafeOPEnglish
          35·
          10 hours ago

          Waiting until the last minute to link the post you were referencing (which, to be fair, most people didn’t need me to explain) was a bit confusing, so I’ll admit that felt like bad form. But no hard feelings.

          It seems like we’re on the same page about most things, and I agree with all the points you listed.

          I’ll also apologize for the immediate defensiveness—people on this site can be really mean, and shove words into my mouth without evidence, and after a while, it starts to get to you. You are one in a million for actually having a source for your opinion on me (which I just wish you had linked earlier 😛).

    • spujb@lemmy.cafeOPEnglish
      29·
      10 hours ago

      edit: good job you baited me 🙄

      erasing this thread just to say you are misreading, i hope not intentionally, an older post of mine. i do not believe this. see here for clarification: https://lemmy.cafe/comment/8372851

      • assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works
        111·
        12 hours ago

        It’s only a strawman if you haven’t posted exactly that argument before. So, which is it, though? Did the Dems lose because they failed to pivot left on Palestine to capture the leftist Arabic vote, or are leftist Arabs an inconsequentially small voter base?

        Answer: it’s the second one! White people handed this country to Trump, and trying to court Arabs with Palestine wouldn’t have increased Harris’ results.

          • assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works
            81·
            11 hours ago

            Again, not a false dilemma if you’ve previously posted that pivoting left for Arabic votes on Palestine would put the Democrats in power.

            I agree that the Dems abandoned appealing to voters on economic grounds, which is what actually lost them the election. But I’m not addressing any arguments in that - I’m commenting on your previous commentary on Dems not pivoting left on Palestine. So hey, fallacy fallacy yourself if you want.