• PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPM
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    His point that whatever term retard is replaced with in the lexicon will simply go on the treadmill of slurs just like moron did.

    Okay?

    Like, I really don’t know what the two of you aim to prove here by repeatedly drawing attention to the fact that connotations of words change with time. Yes, both in the past and the future. This is my shocked face.

    The use of ‘Retard’ and its acceptability has changed due to the dual connotations it acquired (those connotations being, specifically, a derogatory insult, and the assertion of actual medical mental disability). It’s no longer acceptable. That doesn’t mean that every word which clinicians used or which schoolyard bullies used is now the equivalent of calling someone a ‘retard’. ‘Retard’ has a very acute combination of connotations, which anyone who grew up around the term understands as different from terms like ‘fool’, ‘idiot’, or ‘moron’.

    Like, fuck’s sake. How are you not grasping this?

    You are literally participating in the problem you tried to call out.

    … the problem of… not using a term widely agreed upon to be offensive in the modern day?

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        Either both are acceptable or neither is because they are synonymous, in meaning and historical context.

        Okay, you go out to your local NAACP meeting and started calling all the people there ‘colored’, or even better, ‘negros’, since that’s synonymous in meaning and historical context to ‘Black’, I’m sure it’ll go over well. Good to see that you still don’t understand what ‘connotation’ means, and apparently are too lazy to look it up.

        Fucking moron.

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            same root, usage and cultural meaning though acceptability has differed over time.

            Yes, like ‘colored’ and ‘Black’. Yet only a fucking moron would confuse the two as equally appropriate.

            You literally are just repeatedly demonstrating that you don’t understand connotation, and are utterly resistant to the most blatant and obvious examples of connotation possible. It’s like your eyes pass over the comparison without even reading it, glossing over with the hope of, I don’t know, showing off your ignorance on the internet? I mean, if you’re going to get into an argument about literal semantics, you should probably at least understand the elementary-school stuff, lmao.

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                It is not a connotation you have issue with it is the social acceptability,

                And why is it socially unacceptable?

                Because of the connotations.

                Thanks for playing. Try not being a moron next time.

                Like, fuck, it’s not every day I get into an argument with someone who literally spells out why they’re wrong, lmao. That’s some next-level obliviousness.

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                    The connotations are the same and you haven’t offered any fucking proof otherwise.

                    The connotations are the same

                    The connotations are the same

                    You really are just gonna go out here and make this claim, huh? lol

                    The social acceptability is different only because of how words fall in and out of favour in the lexicon you retard.

                    … and why do words fall in and out of favor, sweetie?

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          Funny. I see nobody in this thread throwing around insults, except for you. Ok, let’s stoop to that level: Maybe you could stop calling people having a civilized debate “fucking morons”, then you wouldn’t come across as an intolerable twat. I’m out.

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            Funny. I see nobody in this thread throwing around insults, except for you.

            Is it because the other guy literally asked to be banned and his content removed? Because otherwise you’d see him calling me a retard. But hey, who needs context when you can blindly side with whoever seems to be in agreement with you and make assertions on what feels correct?