• MouthyHooker [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    19 hours ago

    It’s a real slippery slope into disordered eating for a lot of people. It trains you to ignore your body’s natural hunger cues. I’m glad it works for some people, it’s none of my business how others eat, but it is a fad diet and therefore should be viewed with heavy skepticism.

    I also don’t hear this discussed often but social eating is a pretty important part of the human experience, and it sucks when you can’t eat with your friends because you’re fasting.

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      18 hours ago

      and it sucks when you can’t eat with your friends because you’re fasting.

      its not like i go to parties or eat with my friends every day. and besides its pretty easy to adjust my fast for those days when i do have social calls. instead of eating lunch at midday I eat with my friends at 14:00s.

      fasting to me is a perfect means of controlling my anxiety and dealing with the completely out of whack food environment in which we grow up today. the food industry relies on inducing overconsumption. it hjacks our bodies’ natural hunger cues via high processed foods. fasting is a natural way to restore a healthy eating instinct. it was only through fasting that i went from wanting to eat all the time to eating in a timely way, valuing each dish i make.

      this goes back to eating as a social experience. because i am no longer subject to the deleterious effects of high processed foods i can easily spend a week out with family and friends, eating three times a day, and then return to a reasonable, nutrition based eating period with no problem.

      as a side note, the real slippery slope is semaglutide. because those meds are a brute force way to emulate the effects of a healthy hormonal cycle, so it is only logical that once you’re off the meds you’re back to equating appetite with hunger and feeling hungry all the time.

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        16 hours ago

        I’m glad it works for you. Please understand your experience is not universal.

        I will repeat: for a lot of people, myself included, IF triggers disordered eating patterns.

        Semaglutides are a medical miracle for diabetics who struggle to control their blood glucose

        They are also just like all other drugs in that when you stop taking them, they stop working. This is also true of literally every other pharmaceutical, and that doesn’t mean people shouldn’t take their psych meds or their anti-seizure meds or their blood thinners.

        I would never try to convince someone to change eating habits that are working well for them, but diets (including IF) can absolutely be harmful for some people and I would suggest being sensitive to that when discussing this topic.

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          16 hours ago

          I do not deny that every person needs to find their own way through the high processed foods / ersatz foods epidemic. But it has to be done in one way or the other. It’s like with triggering foodstuffs. If sweets are especially troublesome for you, then you end up having to thread the needle. You have to control yourself from consuming the worst kinds of fat/sugar amalgams that capitalism throws at you. And yet you are likely better off not pretending that you can disavow sweets altogether. What you cannot do is pretend that you don’t have a problem. You gotta confront it.

          The solution at the end of the day is to consume as much real food as possible, which in turn will allow your body to restore its natural eating patterns. Avoid the chemically pre-digested bread as much as possible because you are simply not built to consume it without spiraling out of control. Eat beans, proteins, fruits, veggies and so on. Even the fatty hummus you make at home won’t be as dangerous to your metabolism as the frankensauces that are served out there with impunity.

          In a food environment designed to hjack your hormonal processes and turn your intuition towards overconsumption (and food industry profits) fasting is far from a fad diet. Its a form of resistance against a poisonous food environment. Is it a silver bullet? Probably not. Behaviorial change is down to each individual, and many people will be able to ward themselves off against ersatz foodstuffs via many smaller dishes over their day. The point is that safeguarding one’s body against this environment has to be done one way or the other.

          What is already not working I believe is the usage of semaglutides as anything other than a diabetes medication. Because let’s face it, that’s what is happening. If your entire food environment is designed to inflame your appetite, then taking semaglutides as a suppressant is like placing a bandaid atop an open wound.