A part of my family is extremely religious, and borderline fundamentalist. After a while I’ve been able accept the fact that some people want to know how the world works, and some want to believe.
I know that my death won’t be much different than if our dog dies. My consciousness will cease to exist, and I’ll either get burnt or decompose. Many people are filled with existential dread and look to religion to comfort them. And that’s cool for them.
And then their things beyond your understanding, that you fill with little stories. Sickness isn’t something that can be prevented by a shot, it’s a punishment. Not getting kids? A punishment. Pork? Haram because Allah said so, not because refrigeration didn’t exist. Whatever
makes you happy!
The problem I got is that these people are easily lied to and manipulated by authority. The religious right are so easily played by Trump it’s embarrassing as a human being.
It’s the opposite of cool. Cringey as fuck, is what it is.
If you don’t want to use a word, fucking don’t. Use a fucking synonym, for fuck’s sake, or phrase it differently.
But don’t go making your bullshit harder to read just so you can justify to yourself using a word that makes you feel uncomfortable because you’re too damaged to function properly in society. Doing that you’re being the worst kind of hypocrite, because you’re only lying to yourself.
Cool…? Fucking pathetic is the word you’re looking for.
A lot of behaviors are learned and people have learned that using profanity in most places gets you in trouble. I don’t think it’s fair to berate anyone for what is essentially a social expectation in many other circles.
Good thing Lemmy isn’t like that. But, please, lighten the fuck up.
It’s just the opposite social expectation here. And honestly it bothers me not because some people do it but because it feels like american puritanism taking over online spaces because it’s even in screenshots. Like holy shit you’re quoting someone just leave the swearing in.
using profanity in most places gets you in trouble
Most places in the theocratic kleptocracy of Magastan, I assume; a few places (or circumstances) in the civilised world, which in most cases can be avoided due to them being excessively silly.
In any case, though, that’s not the fucking point.
If you don’t want to use a word, don’t fucking use it. Use a fucking synonym, or euphemism, or metaphor, or insinuation, or whatever.
Using most of the word but censoring one of the letters, however, is so utterly stupid and hypocritical that it’s insulting both to the readers and the writer. You’re still using the word, just with an intentional typo. You’re not lying to anyone except yourself.
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It’s basically a zombie death cult. This powerful necromancer has to die to become a lich, releasing his soul into a phylactery which happens to be the souls of his believers (and making it really hard to destroy his phylactery). Then his believers are promised that they will come back as undead, as a reward for carrying a part of this “holy ghost” phylactery. What a racket.
personally i am a fan of “keep your religion to yourself”, “don’t use the veil of the church as a means to make money”, “help those that others cast out, like sex workers”, “don’t engage in stereotype”, and “rich people go to hell”.
“read as” is doing a lot of heavy lifting. Most scholars say they were written well after the fact (decades to generations after), after a bunch of oral tradition related changes crept in. Plus, they were sort of down selected from a much larger corpus.
So this is just a narrative technique rather than an actual eyewitness account.
By “well after the fact”, it’s still within the lifetime of eyewitnesses. Contrasted with other historical records, it’s pretty good. Like Alexander the Great being written about 800 years after the fact, or some details about Julius Caesar being written down 200 years after the fact which nobody disputes. For something we can archaeologically prove which also happened at the time - the pompeii disaster - there is one record 30 years later. Despite it being an event witnessed by hundreds of thousands and likely having influential romans among it’s victims. You’re really overestimating the frequency of writings and documentation from the first century. In which the New Testament is abnormal in that it has a high frequency. So something that clearly was a big deal did happen. The traditions as well carried across societies, so must have been rooted in fact. As for the larger corpus - those were the centuries later forgeries that were removed for that reason - because they were much later and not seen as reliable. Some of them were attributed to more important figures also, like Thomas. So the early Church clearly cared about accuracy.
It’s this kind of mental gymnastics that killed church for me. Jesus had a pretty decent moral framework set up, but people mangled into a bunch of hocus pocus.
it’s not cannibalism because the bread and wine still keep all their properties after turning into Jesus 🤓
You could make a perfectly cromulent meringue out of human blood, and it’d have all the properties of a meringue made out of eggs (no, seriously, blood is effectively a one to one culinary equivalent of eggs, except for the taste and allergens)… but it’d still be made out of human blood. 🤷♂️
When you think about the Cristian lore… It is a pile of insane bullsh…t
A part of my family is extremely religious, and borderline fundamentalist. After a while I’ve been able accept the fact that some people want to know how the world works, and some want to believe.
I know that my death won’t be much different than if our dog dies. My consciousness will cease to exist, and I’ll either get burnt or decompose. Many people are filled with existential dread and look to religion to comfort them. And that’s cool for them.
And then their things beyond your understanding, that you fill with little stories. Sickness isn’t something that can be prevented by a shot, it’s a punishment. Not getting kids? A punishment. Pork? Haram because Allah said so, not because refrigeration didn’t exist. Whatever makes you happy!
The problem I got is that these people are easily lied to and manipulated by authority. The religious right are so easily played by Trump it’s embarrassing as a human being.
I wish more of them would live like this: “Pray as though everything depended on God. Work as though everything depended on you.” - Saint Augustine
you can say bullshit.
for fucks sake.
Adults are also allowed to choose not to. It’s cool.
It’s the opposite of cool. Cringey as fuck, is what it is.
If you don’t want to use a word, fucking don’t. Use a fucking synonym, for fuck’s sake, or phrase it differently.
But don’t go making your bullshit harder to read just so you can justify to yourself using a word that makes you feel uncomfortable because you’re too damaged to function properly in society. Doing that you’re being the worst kind of hypocrite, because you’re only lying to yourself.
Cool…? Fucking pathetic is the word you’re looking for.
Alternatively, pi_sing off people who call things cringe is based as f_ck so maybe I’ll start self censoring.
You missed it. “Cool” changed. You got old.
A lot of behaviors are learned and people have learned that using profanity in most places gets you in trouble. I don’t think it’s fair to berate anyone for what is essentially a social expectation in many other circles.
Good thing Lemmy isn’t like that. But, please, lighten the fuck up.
It’s just the opposite social expectation here. And honestly it bothers me not because some people do it but because it feels like american puritanism taking over online spaces because it’s even in screenshots. Like holy shit you’re quoting someone just leave the swearing in.
Most places in the theocratic kleptocracy of Magastan, I assume; a few places (or circumstances) in the civilised world, which in most cases can be avoided due to them being excessively silly.
In any case, though, that’s not the fucking point.
If you don’t want to use a word, don’t fucking use it. Use a fucking synonym, or euphemism, or metaphor, or insinuation, or whatever.
Using most of the word but censoring one of the letters, however, is so utterly stupid and hypocritical that it’s insulting both to the readers and the writer. You’re still using the word, just with an intentional typo. You’re not lying to anyone except yourself.
No, I don’t think I will.
You seem very upset about this.
An adult choosing to slightly censor a word has you in meltdown mode. Gosh.
Abject wilful idiocy irks me. 🤷♂️
Also, I was in the toilet and had time to type.
I mean, where else would you be using Lemmy?
You can’t say fucks sake it’s bullshit.
Indeed! Also, this is the internet. You’re allowed to say bullshit.
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It’s basically a zombie death cult. This powerful necromancer has to die to become a lich, releasing his soul into a phylactery which happens to be the souls of his believers (and making it really hard to destroy his phylactery). Then his believers are promised that they will come back as undead, as a reward for carrying a part of this “holy ghost” phylactery. What a racket.
This should be on Wikipedia as description of Christianity
i mean it’s mostly all metaphor and allegory, meant to teach you lessons rather than to act as a historical document.
it’s like a book of fables for people who think animals are silly
The foremost lesson being “obey authority figures or else”
personally i am a fan of “keep your religion to yourself”, “don’t use the veil of the church as a means to make money”, “help those that others cast out, like sex workers”, “don’t engage in stereotype”, and “rich people go to hell”.
Yeah. Funny how the most influential Christians all tend to forget those 🤔
“Treat women and children like property. Always blame victims. Take slaves from neighboring countries, never your own.”
Lots of great lessons in that holiest of books.
Second is “don’t question them”
The four gospels read as eyewitness accounts and reports of a real person, not as fables and allegories.
“read as” is doing a lot of heavy lifting. Most scholars say they were written well after the fact (decades to generations after), after a bunch of oral tradition related changes crept in. Plus, they were sort of down selected from a much larger corpus.
So this is just a narrative technique rather than an actual eyewitness account.
By “well after the fact”, it’s still within the lifetime of eyewitnesses. Contrasted with other historical records, it’s pretty good. Like Alexander the Great being written about 800 years after the fact, or some details about Julius Caesar being written down 200 years after the fact which nobody disputes. For something we can archaeologically prove which also happened at the time - the pompeii disaster - there is one record 30 years later. Despite it being an event witnessed by hundreds of thousands and likely having influential romans among it’s victims. You’re really overestimating the frequency of writings and documentation from the first century. In which the New Testament is abnormal in that it has a high frequency. So something that clearly was a big deal did happen. The traditions as well carried across societies, so must have been rooted in fact. As for the larger corpus - those were the centuries later forgeries that were removed for that reason - because they were much later and not seen as reliable. Some of them were attributed to more important figures also, like Thomas. So the early Church clearly cared about accuracy.
Almost like it’s all a bunch of bullshit invented to control the masses 🤔
But only mostly!
Catholicism truly believes you are eating Jesus’s body and drinking his blood at mass.
But it’s not cannibalism because the bread and wine still keep all their properties after turning into Jesus 🤓
https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/are-catholics-cannibals
It’s this kind of mental gymnastics that killed church for me. Jesus had a pretty decent moral framework set up, but people mangled into a bunch of hocus pocus.
You could make a perfectly cromulent meringue out of human blood, and it’d have all the properties of a meringue made out of eggs (no, seriously, blood is effectively a one to one culinary equivalent of eggs, except for the taste and allergens)… but it’d still be made out of human blood. 🤷♂️