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DONALD TRUMP SAID he “absolutely” plans to testify in the federal government’s case against him regarding classified documents he removed from the White House. “I’m allowed to do whatever I want … I’m allowed to do everything I did,” the former president told conservative podcast host Hugh Hewitt.
In an interview on “The Hugh Hewitt Show” that dropped Wednesday, the host asked Trump, “Did you direct anyone to move the boxes, Mr. President? Did you tell anyone to move the boxes?” referring to the boxes of more than 300 classified documents the federal government seized last year from Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate.
“I don’t talk about anything. You know why? Because I’m allowed to do whatever I want. I come under the Presidential Records Act,” Trump replied, while also taking a quick detour to bash Hewitt. “I’m not telling you. You know, every time I talk to you, ‘Oh, I have a breaking story.’ You don’t have any story. I come under the Presidential Records Act. I’m allowed to do everything I did.”
That’s true. A president can do whatever he wants , it’s called diplomatic immunity. Every president has it, which is why none of them have ever been tried for a crime before.
That’s not how diplomatic immunity works. It’s to protect them in a foreign country while they’re there. So a diplomat stationed in France can’t be tried by the French authorities. It has nothing to do with being brought up on charges in their home country, and definitely doesn’t mean they can do whatever they want.
Explain then why no other presidents ever got charged for any of their many crimes?
Because they’re rich and powerful. The law gives pathetic protections compared to that.
Well nobody should be above the law, so I say if you’re going to try Trump then fine but let’s be fair and try the other presidents too. Enough of the partisan bias.
Gotta be easy to name a crime for each of the last 4 Presidents right?
Of course, that’s elementary.
Please proceed, Sherlock.
I’ve given many examples in this thread
That was someone asking for examples
It’s easy to google for examples if you are really curious. Here I’ll do it right now since like most poors you’re too lazy to do anything for yourself. Ok I just googled president crimes and here you go. https://youtube.com/watch?v=5BXtgq0Nhsc&si=bAB0syFHw1sN6g6q
That is very much not what diplomatic immunity is.
It’s to protect diplomats from specific laws within the nations in which they serve (often religious laws).
You’re trying to tell me that no president ever did a little oopsie until trump? That’s patently ridiculous, they must have immunity or else one of them would have got in some kind of trouble. Did Jackson go to jail for doing trail of tears? No? But Trump takes a couple sheets of paper home to read on the toilet and you want to put him in jail? It’s a clear partisan bias.
No, he didn’t try to tell you anything other than the fact that diplomatic immunity has nothing at all to do with the president, you moron. But, yeah, Trump didn’t do “oopsies”; he knowingly and intentionally broke the law. Which, incidentally, has nothing to do with what former presidents did or did not do.
If you think other presidents didn’t all break the law I’ve got a bridge to sell you!
If you think that’s what I said, I’ll sell that bridge to you…
No refunds on the bridge, sorry!
Ok. I will not refund you for the purchase of your own property.
It must be very easy for you to cite examples then, yes?
Trail of Tears was a shitty thing, but it was literally not illegal, and he had the support and direction of Congress. It wasn’t like, a pet project. It was a popular policy at the time and not a scandal until later.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part4/4p2959.html#:~:text=These Indian nations%2C in the,forceful proponent of Indian removal.
I already replied to you with a whole video full of examples, why are you pestering me again? https://youtube.com/watch?v=5BXtgq0Nhsc&si=bAB0syFHw1sN6g6q
Noam Chomsky is not a source lol
Reeks of desperation on your part. Let’s see your better source arguing that no presidents ever did any crimes.
I don’t need to prove the negative. Burden of proof is on the person making the claim.
You’re making the extraordinary claim that no presidents have ever done a crime until now, also I’ve provided you a list of many such crimes which you are free (but not able, perhaps?) to research yourself
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It literally was illegal, the Supreme Court said so. And Jackson said suck my nuts and did it anyway. And not only did he not get in trouble, they put him on the $20 bill. And now Trump took some papers to the bathroom with him and they want to put him in jail? Typical democrat double standards!
Lol no
https://www.nps.gov/places/pea-ridge-trail-of-tears.htm#:~:text=Trail of Tears Time Line,discovery by the United States.&text=Georgia in 1828-,On May 28%2C 1830%2C the Indian Removal Act was signed,law by President Andrew Jackson.
https://www.thirteen.org/wnet/supremecourt/antebellum/history2.html#:~:text=Jackson is famous for having,Jackson simply ignored the decision.
Hurrr de durrr durrr you didn’t read far enough into the timeline I guess. You do know that the Supreme Court rules on laws after they are passed and not before, correct?
Actually you didn’t read far enough. Here’s the actual decision:
You’re literally making excuses for crimes against humanity to own Drumpf, maybe take a step back?
The Presidential Records Act requires that all presidential records be transferred into the custody of the National Archives at the end of the administration.
That doesn’t make it a crime to keep a few papers as a souvenir. Biden did the same thing btw he kept souvenir papers in the garage with his cool car. They all do it.
yes it does make it a crime 100%, that’s the whole reason Trump’s being charged with stealing classified documents because it violates the presidential records act that’s how this shit works
Wrong, it’s not a crime. It’s a wild goose chase
I don’t think that idiom means what you think it means.
What’s good for the goose is good for the gander and pretty soon sleepy Joe’s goose will be cooked!
it’s funny that you think that this is smart
never mind that Giant mountain of evidence and things we watched on live TV and just keep burying your head in the sand
It literally does
Nope, sorry losers and haters but Trump did nothing wrong at all. He got impeached for making a perfect phone call and now this? Charged for reading a few papers on the toilet? Too bad he’s gonna beat the rap and win the presidency again
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He doesn’t need you to be his lawyer. It’s not internet discussions that will prover if someone did anything outside of the law.
If Trump was just a bit more clever he could have saved himself a lot of trouble by just complying with the request of giving the stuff back.
It’s not possible for a president to do a crime and get in trouble for it, it’s never happened before in the history of presidents!
Maybe it needs to happen more.
The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago, the second best time is now.
True! Let’s start by putting the president from 20 years ago in jail!
If it never happened before is not a guarantee it won’t happen in the future. Trump is a first in very many ways. If he had any bit of restraint in him he would have gotten away with it. He’s just the first ex president to be stubborn enough to not stop doing illegal things after leaving the office.
It would open a whole can of worms and then you’ve got to put all of them in jail
Not really, just the one that doesn’t know when to stop or moderate. Nixon could have been imprisoned, but knew when to bind in and tap out. Only your Orange idol is as thick that he thinks he’s forever above the law.
Nixon was pardoned. Once Trump wins he can pardon himself. Easy peezy
If
All of who? All the ex-presidents?
But you wouldn’t have to do that would you, because none of them have been convicted of a crime. Probably because they’re too smart to get caught on like some people.
The fact that Trump is the world’s biggest idiot is a big reason why he’s the first President ever put on trial. But that’s on him.
dumbest take I’ve read in a while.
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