No shade to any comrades here in that role. I’m just venting because 1) I hate my job and am officially “quiet quitting,” and 2) I’ve sent out over 120 job applications today and I’m fuckign tired.
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A good PM makes all the difference but its rare to come across any. My current one has the memory of a goldfish and is more interested in telling me how to code even though he’s a novice programmer who’s never done anything professionally.
So far at my current job I’ve dealt with five different PMs.
The first one is really good. Used to be a dev. Big fuck-work-energy. They handle all the administrative bullshit that I don’t know or care about. They check in on the devs every now and then. Lots of constructive feedback and praise. They managed to make some kind of contract with the customer that pretty enabled me to do jack shit and get paid for it most of the time without anyone raising eyebrows.
The second one is good, pretty average PM. Used to be a dev themselves since the 90’s, so they understand the developer’s point of view. Easy to work with.
The third one is just kind of there. Handles the admin stuff and that’s it. The devs (i.e. I) do most of the interactions with the customer, since the PM doesn’t really know wtf the project is even about.
The fourth one isn’t even there. Sometimes I don’t even know if they’ve quit or what, because I never see or hear from them. The ultimate quiet quitter. Once they showed up to some friday afternoon function, said “sup?” chugged a beer and devoured a pizza in ten seconds (rolled it up and ate it like a burrito!!), and went home. My main inspiration, my number one career goal.
The fifth one was garbage though. Made all sorts of unrealistic promises to the customers and took it out on the devs when we couldn’t deliver in time. They quit at some point, and the project transfered to PM #1.
Holy
that’s a lot of applications.
sends all the good vibes I can muster I have seen lot’s of fail sons and fail daughters end up in the PM role. If you dig into their past, they have an ivy league degree, come from money, are connected to an investor/shareholder in some weird way, and are totally incompetent.
That said, I’ve also worked with some really good PMs that made my job as a programmer/capitalist task master (manager of programmers) easier.
edit: Just realized OP is referencing Project Manager, not Product. Although, after 10 years in this industry I still don’t understand the difference.
Being a PM type role, I feel constantly pressured to show I am not one of the worthless ones. People go in assuming you are an asshole useless empty suit and it takes so much work to build a reputation you are not every time you move groups or teams.
/SMH
I hate loving what I do, but knowing I am surrounded by people failing to serve the people we say we exist to serve.
I have a good project manager and he’s receiving pressure from our VP to become a bad one. “Oh, you give your team autonomy and a sense of ownership over their work? Well, we’re gonna need you to implement more time tracking so we can charge our clients appropriately.”
They’re just assholes who can’t get over the fact that working from home may allow us to work fewer hours while remaining equally productive.
I built all the tracking stuff at my job. It’s got a really shiny interface and looks super legit for when the owner walks by, but I bullshit all the numbers on the backend so no one looks bad
(He was gonna implement tracking no matter what, but when I stepped up to build the system it saved him like $1000/month and let us make up our own metrics)
you obfuscated the calculation in the code so it’s hard to turn it back around on you, right?
It’s all just docker shit sadly. But I got all the relationships between services set up to be basically impossible to replicate.
I’m also the only person in the whole company who knows anything about programming, so there’s no chance they can replace me and I’m doing things so outside normal procedures that unless they can find someone willing to untangle my shit for 3x my salary they’re stuck with me lol
I concur very much. Can’t even describe how jealous I am that my team lead just quit, I wish it was me. Now I have to take his role at basically the busiest time on the project, fucking hell
Godspeed comrade
I got asked by my immediate boss this morning what I do all day. I think they’re probably trying to figure out how to let me go without completely fucking themselves out of stalling ALL American projects, since I’m the only stateside specialist in this application (that I have no clue how to work since there was never formal training, and every clients needs are different).
Jokes on them I’m the biggest time thief at the company.
Gotta love that kind of question. It’s like, shouldn’t they be aware of what you do? It says more about them if they don’t know!
I mean I think its more of an ‘I expected this Tobe further along’ sorta thing, but yeah. I shut it down with a simple “things take time.”
