• LordKitsuna@lemmy.world
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    17 days ago

    Except it’s not because the industry is not going to reduce its production and instead of being used it will just be thrown away at the store. They would require a significant chunk of the population to get on board with this to such a degree that it forced them to reduce production which will literally never happen there’s other more realistic things we can be doing

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      17 days ago

      Raising animals costs a huge amount of money. Who can afford to raise animals that aren’t selling?

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        17 days ago

        Good point, but the market is very inefficient system for determining supply.

        And big companies have other methods for dealing with low demand like

        • Lobby the government (and the government will give in)
        • Just targeting rich people. It is known that they contribute to climate change much more than working class people. As long as the rich are free to do whatever they like the planet will continue to rot.
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          17 days ago

          It would still be way less profitable in the end and would raise questions by the public as to why so much money being wasted on a cruel inefficient system.

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            17 days ago

            That is what I am saying it will become less profitable after years, we need climate change solutions now.

            And most people are very good at ignoring cruelty.

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              17 days ago

              The People who want baby steps don’t give a damn about the environment. It’s just business as usual for them.

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        17 days ago

        The entire point of my message was that they won’t stop selling, my point was that it’s not realistic to expect a large enough portion of the population to do this for it to matter. It’s just not going to happen no matter what we do

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          17 days ago

          Oh you’re so god now saying “this will happen or this will never happen” bunch of arrogant rubbish.

          You’re lying because you don’t want it to change you want to keep eating meat while the planet gets destroyed for your selfish desires. As they’re cutting down the Amazon for beef farms.

          Research has shown that meat consumption is going down and the vegan population is rapidly growing so your stance is wrong.

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            17 days ago

            I do love your assumptions. I actually use meat pretty sparingly. My diet mostly consists of random slow cooker meals made with Brussel sprouts, broccoli, asparagus, beans(of various types), potatoes, rice and ofc spinach. In various combinations not allmat once ofc.

            It’s easy to make because you literally just toss it into the slow cooker for 8 hrs and walk away and it’s way cheaper per meal than with meat. Chase with bread, salad, or yogurt depending on your mood.

            My personal diet doesn’t change reality, there is a significant enough portion of the population that will never even consider dropping meat to keep meat production going strong. I’d rather spend my effort on trying to reduce electrical waste. Like electric dryers for example. Wildly wasteful. Really good high quality heat pump dryers that are basically just as fast exist and they use 1/4 the amount of power. I’ve already talked to several people into getting them, 5 to be more exact. Even just those 5 is a significant chunk of power standard resistive electric are insanely inefficient.

            I’ve also been attempting to convince people to go with chest refrigerators. AKA chest freezers but at fridge temperatures as they too will use a fraction of the power. They also don’t lose the entirety of their cold every time you open the door causing them to cycle again. But even that is a hard sell, it’s a little less convenient requires more floor space and makes it so people can’t just throw multiple months worth of random stuff in their fridge and forget about it as it piles up on shelfs. Which is enough to turn a lot of people off the idea

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            16 days ago

            meat consumption is going down and the vegan population is rapidly growing

            can you cite this?

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      17 days ago

      No, it will increase the production costs and reduce the profitability of meat products.

      Going vegan is the best thing you can do for the environment as an individual. As animal agriculture causes at least 14.5% of emissions, uses up 75% more land and wastes ungodly amounts of water.

      A whole foods plant-based will reduce your risk from chronic diseases and lengthen your life expectancy.

      Do the 30 day vegan challenge and do better for yourself and the environment:

      https://www.vegansociety.com/go-vegan/take-vegan-pledge

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        17 days ago

        I feel like you missed the part of my message where I said it wasn’t realistic. You are correct that if we could convince a large portion of the population to switch it would reduce profits and ultimately cause the industry to scale down. The entire point of my message was that that’s not going to happen no matter how much you talk about how good it is no matter how many facts you give you are simply not going to get a majority of the population to give up or even meaningfully reduce their meat consumption.

        So instead of wasting your time spending your wheels on something that will never happen you could be doing something more productive that actually has a chance of succeeding.

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          17 days ago

          A bunch of rubbish veganism is growing all around the world and yet you’re here arrogantly saying that things won’t change because you think you somehow know everything.