• Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    “I still think you should try to make an argument, and I think this is—there may be things wrong with our healthcare system, but you have to make an argument, and you have to try to find a way to convince people and change it by that,” Thiel eventually said.

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      Immediately after that he says

      this is not going to work

      He lost his composure but I think this is actually a good point. Everybody is talking about how cathartic it is that this happened, and how this guy deserved it, but not a lot of real consideration how this could actually get us sane healthcare.

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        11 hours ago

        It sure seems to be working to me. They are afraid at the people they’ve been hurting, the lack of which was certainly part of the problem. And we’re having all this dialogue around it.

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        I think after 30 Plus years of struggling the “right way” and failing all while hundreds of thousands of us die has made us all a little willing to try a new way. If it fails also then oh well no harm done. At least to no one we’re not willing to lose.

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          That’s my take, too. I’ve done activism, and peaceful protests, and letters to my Congresscritter, and done it all for a long, long time. Years and years of doing what we’re supposed to hasn’t accomplished squat. Luigi’s activism seems much more effective.

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          I don’t think the ACA was a failure, it improved some of the most glaring issues, and made a big difference for me personally. US life expectancy has continued to rise over most of those 30 years. Affordability is worse, this particular problem of scammy, “let’s maximize profit by dishonesty and disregard for humanity where we’re likely to get away with it” insurance is worse, but the system as a whole could be allowing more death and suffering than it is.

          If it fails also then oh well no harm done. At least to no one we’re not willing to lose.

          Maybe it isn’t the person that is the loss, it’s the risk of further increase in the general level of fear, corruption, violence and chaos. Political murders aren’t free. If the answer to how the benefit can be worth the cost (or even how there is any benefit) is “dunno lol” maybe it isn’t.

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        I can think of two major healthcare concessions that have been made since. Now, whether they were forgone conclusions, I cannot say. But, it sure is cathartic seeing all these scared billionaires trying to talk their way out of why the killings shouldn’t continue until healthcare improves.