Leaker yeux1122 says that Apple Store staff have been told to make sure iPhone 15 buyers know about the change...

Leaker yeux1122 says that Apple Store staff have been told to make sure iPhone 15 buyers know about the change…

  • Cabrio@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4810·
    10 months ago

    But not USB as a standard it doesn’t. They still chose proprietary over standard because wankers.

        • Earthwormjim91@lemmy.worldEnglish
          148·
          10 months ago

          Other than, you know, the connector. The thing most people care about. Most USB-C cables today are usb 2.0 still anyway so they have the same spec as Lightning.

          Micro usb was non reversible, the little pins broke all the fuckin time so the cable wouldn’t stay in the port, and the connector would damage the port itself so you’d just be fucked.

          Lightning was miles ahead of that. It was reversible so it literally didn’t matter how you put it in. There were no fragile little pins to hold it in so it lasted a lot longer, and since the internal pins in the port were all on the sides of the port it was a lot harder to damage the port itself. If the cable got damaged you could just replace it without worrying about the port.

          Lightning was better than micro and mini usb in pretty much every way.

          • lemmyvore@feddit.nlEnglish
            112·
            10 months ago

            There were no fragile little pins to hold it in so it lasted a lot longer

            …except Apple made the housing and cable super fragile so they’d sell more “certified” cables. Phew, dodged a bullet there. Any excuse Apple ever made about Lightning falls on its face when you figure out how two-faced they are.

            Sad thing is that I actually liked Lightning cables, a lot, but I liked them when they were made by decent manufacturers with braided cord and a sturdy connector.

          • stonedemoman@lemmy.worldEnglish
            94·
            10 months ago

            Lightning cables are notorious for breaking. https://you-well.co.uk/why-apple-cables-break-so-easily-what-to-do/

            So what is there left to say about it…that you don’t have to look at the port before plugging a lightning cable in? Is that your justification for saying the USB standard sucked?

            Most USB-C cables today are usb 2.0 still anyway so they have the same spec as Lightning.

            Modern PCs have 3.0 ports. Androids have 3.0 ports. 3.0 cables are available at any online store. What the actual fuck are you talking about?

            • Earthwormjim91@lemmy.worldEnglish
              611·
              10 months ago

              You’re the first person I’ve ever heard defend micro usb lol. So congratulations there.

              Yes Apple branded lightning cables break pretty easily. Not the fucking port in the phone though. Way to ignore that.

              “Android” isn’t a single maker. Sure galaxies and pixels are USB3.0 or 3.1. The vast majority of cheapo Android phones use 2.0.

              • stonedemoman@lemmy.worldEnglish
                91·
                10 months ago

                Not the fucking port in the phone though. Way to ignore that.

                I’m skeptical that this happens anywhere remotely near frequently enough to condemn the entire technology. Never seen it, and never heard about it until just now.

                “Android” isn’t a single maker. Sure galaxies and pixels are USB3.0 or 3.1. The vast majority of cheapo Android phones use 2.0.

                I would love for you to find a single noteworthy android manufacturer that is not in this list. *Edited because this link was not working correctly on desktop site

                • Earthwormjim91@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  15·
                  10 months ago

                  You do know that the connector is separate from the protocol right?

                  The galaxy S23 ultra comes with a usb 2.0 type c cable in the box.

                  If you want a 3.2 cable with 45W charging you have to buy it separately.

                • whofearsthenight@lemm.eeEnglish
                  15·
                  10 months ago

                  I’m skeptical that this happens anywhere remotely near frequently enough to condemn the entire technology. Never seen it, and never heard about it until just now.

                  I have three kids. I have had to buy parts off of eBay and replace the ports on both of my PS4 controllers. They see way, way less use than any of the kids iPhones, or mine or my wife’s. I have a Kindle that has to be propped “just-so” to charge.

                  I really don’t give much a shit if everyone in this thread hates apple, but micro-usb is a fucking garbage connector that frankly, USB-C shares too much in common with. If you stepped on a lightning cable that was in a device, you probably need a new cable. If stepped on a micro-usb, you probably need a new device and new cable. USB-C, you need a new cable and you might need a new device (see also, me figuring out how to fix the kids oculus this week.)

                  • stonedemoman@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    62·
                    10 months ago

                    Speculative claims and vitriolic anecdotes are not convincing. There are other factors here that could explain these discrepancies- if they exist at all, because again this comment is so inflammatory that it reeks of personal bias, bad faith, or fabrication- such as: how kids treat gaming peripherals as opposed to phones, placement of the charging port on the device, placement of the items in your house, quality of materials in the device (remember you’re comparing phones to old, $60-$100 items), your perspective focusing more on negative experiences than positive, etc.

      • Cabrio@lemmy.worldEnglish
        302·
        10 months ago

        Yep, the e-waste conversation is bullshit apple propaganda because they aren’t happy about playing nice with competitors and losing proprietary control of their connectors despite it being the same e-waste as if they were upgrading from or to any other standard.

        • NOT_RICK@lemmy.worldEnglish
          71·
          10 months ago

          Eh, at the time they went with proprietary over micro usb to have a reversible port that could push more wattage. I feel like they’ve been dragging their feet because consumers hate changing to new cable standards. I remember the complaints when they moved away from the 30-pin to lightning. They’ve been putting USB C on devices for years now.

          • Neato@kbin.social
            6·
            10 months ago

            I remember the complaints when they moved away from the 40-pin to lightning.

            Are apple consumers more prone to this complaint than the rest of us? Since I’ve had cell phones I’ve moved from USB-mini to USB-micro to USB-C. Every time it was a better change. This is just as many as apple is being asked to do except now they get to benefit from all of the 3rd party cable manufacturers.

            • NOT_RICK@lemmy.worldEnglish
              51·
              10 months ago

              I think most tech-illiterate consumers are iPhone users. That’s been my experience in the US at least. If I started talking cable wattage or data transfer speeds to my aunts and uncles they would immediately glaze over.

          • CmdrShepard@lemmy.oneEnglish
            3·
            10 months ago

            at the time they went with proprietary over micro usb to have a reversible port that could push more wattage.

            They only came with 5W chargers from the early models up to the iPhone 11 in 2019.

            • NOT_RICK@lemmy.worldEnglish
              21·
              10 months ago

              Yeah, but Apple was planning on using the port for years, which they have. iPhone 8 was the first to support faster charging in 2017.