• Lasherz12@lemmy.world
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    This, ladies and gentlemen, is what grievance politics leads to. Cenk*, Anna, Fetterman, Dore, etc, when you think of criticism as competition to get to the top, or you think of one person’s success as a lack of your own, the only path is towards right wing grift.

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        Sorry, Cenk, not Jenk. The point isn’t that all of these people have become right wingers only that once grievance politics begins, that’s where it ends if there is no reconciliation. Anna and Cenk both double down and treat other members of the left as competition rather than allies. This will drive them from the movement sooner or later.

        When your calculus about why people are critiquing something you say is that they want to lower your status so that they can replace you, you’ve got a very different reaction, and one that will not involve actual engagement with the criticism. If you look at it from that point of view, their takes start to make more sense.

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          Oh I get you. I don’t really watch TYT before, but the last time I saw them they are quite militant. It put me off from further watching the show.

          I know where you’re coming from overall. Not everyone of course, but a lot on the left are similarly militant. Frankly, a lot of their ideas, arguments and their messaging approach is very low bar. They consume information sources that are “fast food”, shall we say. Both the left and liberals are rightly criticised for being smug, which turns off people or even shies many away from the broader movement. The militant left and liberals are kind of in their bubble and I realised that after interacting with “vote blue no matter who” Democrats and after Trump won. They refuse to acknowledge the root cause of rise of Trumpism as being economic. Instead, they quickly malign Latino, Muslim, black and white working class folks who voted for Trump as dumb, racist, etc. They forget that white working class used to vote Democrats…